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TI-IE ATLAJ\JTA -CONSTITUTION
For 100 Years. the South's Standard Newspaper
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EUGENE PATTERSON, Editor
RALPH l ,k GILL, Publish er
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Tba n.ks~1\'ln;: a nd Chris tmas. Second-cla ss postas:e paid at
At lanta, Geor,zia.
The AUanta Cons titution (mornin21 and Tbe Atlanta
Constitution acd The Atla nta J ou rn a l (Sun day &gt;, P&lt; illishcd
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DY Atlanta l'lcwspaper8, Inc. , 10 Fors.vth St, N.W., f.t1anta. GeorJ? ia 30302.
Home de livered subs criptlon r ates (lnclu1ln~ taxes ):
Momin!? and Sunday, 1 week , 65c. Mornini: dai ly only, 1
week, 45c Subscripti on prices by mail on req ues t. Sin,g-Je
cooics : Dally, I0c; Sunday, 20&lt;:.
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MONDAY, OCTOBER 23, 1967
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Last week the Board of Aldermen approved
19 pedestrian bridges in the master campus
plan for Georgia State College and those
bridges, as a college spokesman said , "will
get 25,000 students off the city streets so they
won't be run over."
streets and between buildings so low they
would interfere with street traffic, nor so
many of them that they would blot out the
sunshine . But neither should we preclude
them where they would add beauty, aid
movement and improve safety.
The number of students was a projection
into the future; 10 years hence, when the
college's enrollment is expect~d to more than
double.
Ra ther, each bridge proposal should be
judged on its merits-within very broad guidelines if necessary-so that we can take full
advantage of present and future architectural
and engineering knowledge.
By approving these bridges on their merit,
and shelving a proposed ordinance which
would · have forbidd en their construction, the
aldermen also were looking to the future. The
proposal is so restrictive that it would present all sorts of blocks to some very progressive and exciting plans to move pedestrian
and vehicular traffic more efficien tly and
s~cly.
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There must be some. safeguards, to be
sure. We can't have pedestrian bridges across
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Each proposal should be carefully considered by city planners, traffic engineers and
all others concerned. Certainly each should be
studied by the Atlanta Civic Des ign Commission which was specifically set up to review
all such matters and to make r ecommendations.
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The Board of Aldermen is, and of course
will be, the final authority. But the aldermen
should not hamstring themselves by setting
up unreasonably restrictive standards.
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              <text>THE ATLANTA CONSTITUTION -

For 100 Years. the South's Standard Newspaper

RALPH #AcGILL, Publisher

Established Jone 14, 1243
Iseved dally except New Year's, July 4, Labor Day,
atepieine and Christmas. Second-class Postafe paid at

tlanta, Georzia.
Uanta Constitution (morning) and The atlanta

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Constitution aed The Atlanta Journal (Sunday), psdlished

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EUGENE PATTERSON, Editor

py Atlanta Newspapers, Inc., 10 Forsyth St, N.W.. At
tanta, Georgia 30302,

Home delivered subscription rates (including taxed);
Morning and Sunday, 1 week, 65c. Morning daily o i
week, 45c Subscription prices By mail on request. oars
copies: Daily, 10c; Sunday,

MONDAY, OCTOBER 23, 1967

One Bridge at a Time

Last week the Board of Aldermen approved
19 pedestrian bridges in the master campus
plan for Georgia State College and those
bridges, as a college spokesman said, “will
get 25,000 students off the city streets so they
won't be run over.”

The number of students was a projection
into the future; 10 years hence, when the
college’s enrollment is expected to more than
double.

By approving these bridges on their merit,
and shelving a proposed ordinance which
would have forbidden their construction, the
aldermen also were looking to the future. The
proposal is so restrictive that if would pre-
sent all sorts of blocks to some very progres-
sive and exciting plans to move pedestrian
and vehicular traffic more efficiently and
safely.

There must be some. safeguards, to be
sure. We can’t have pedestrian bridges across

streets and between buildings so low they
would interfere with street traffic, nor so
many of them that they would blot out the
sunshine. But neither should we preclude
them where they would add beauty, aid
Movement and improve safety.

Rather, each bridge proposal should be
judged on its merits—within very broad guide-
lines if necessary—so that we can take full
advantage of present and future architectural
and engineering knowledge.

Each proposal should be carefully consid-
ered by city planners, traffic engineers and
all others concerned. Certainly each should be
studied by the Atlanta Civic Design Commis-
sion which was specifically set up to review
all such matters and to make recommenda-
tions.

The Board of Aldermen is, and of course
will be, the final authority. But the aldermen
should not hamstring themselves by setting
up unreasonably restrictive standards.

cs
eer pee t parm

ee ee ee

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                    <text>atlanta
civic
design
commission
joseph s. perrin, chairman
pau l muldawer, a.i.a., vice-chairman
mrs. alvin m. fe rst, secre tary
harry j. baldwin, a.s.l.a.
w. I. cal loway
samuel inman cooper 1 f. a. i. a.
ja mes h. dodd
franklin m. garrett
john c. gould
julian harris , a .i.a.
mrs . edith henderson, a.s. l.a.
h . king me cain 1 p .e.
j. ben moore
john portman , a.i.a.
joseph b. browder, p .e.
October 26 , 1967
HE"AO TO:
Mayop Ivan Allen, Jr.
Vic e-Mayor Sam Masscll, Jr ~
Members of th e Board of Aldermen
Mr , Ray A, Nixon, Director of Public Works
Mr, Collit!r Gladin, Dire ctor of Planning D8pt~
FR OM:
Joseph S. Perrin, Cha irrn an, Civic Iksign Co mmi ssion
SUBJECT:
Bridge Ord i nance
Th~ Ci vi ~ Desig n Commi ssion forwarded at a n earlier t ime a :repor t to
Mr. Ra y Nixon a nd o ther city officials our opposition t o t he proposed
bri dge o~dinanc c . Sinc e that time a r e vis e d e dition has be en issu e d ~
No copy of this e d iti on was s e nt to the Civic De sign Commi ss i ori ~
Howcvc~, th e r evi s0d ver sion i s also so highly restri ctive as t o ha ve
th~ potential effe et of militating against th e soundest and ful les t
development of our ce ntral ci ty. Spo eifieally~ th e Civio Design
Commi s sion feels that a ny ordinanc e dea ling wi th the s e ma tt er s s hould
bc-fle xibl~ enou gh to mee t the ehanging ne e ds of a pr ogressi ve a nd
ehanging city sueh as ours. We f ee l that:
Itc~ (e ) of Sec tion 1 of the ordinanec which sets 16' as a
maxi~um outsid e dirncnsion,.and a mi ni mum inside width dimens ion
as 9', is highly a rbitra ry.
Itc~ (d) stipulates tha t t~ maximum outside height dime ns ion
should not exceed 12 1 • This would preclude any br idge being_
built which is more than one story high. H~rc again the Civic
Design Commission f c ~ls that this restriction is highly inflexible
a.nd may not mee t the net: ds of our central eity whicb fac e s ll\a _jor
problems de aling with the ,cparation of vehicular and pedestri.n
traffic in the ye ar s ahead. We do not feel that there 1s any
partieular virturc or magic in th e 12' restriction·. In somE) eases·,
more height may b t practical l y and a~sthetieally more desirab le
than less.
city hall, atlanta, georgia 30303
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Item (e) stipulates that glass may not be used riearer than 42 11
from the floor of any proposed bridge~ Our Commission feels that
this is a design and engineering problem and not one which rightfully should ~e written in as a ~est~ictibn in a proper ordinance
dealing with bridges and walkvfays ~ Obviously, various kinds of
glass are available today ~hich by thickness and temper are stronger
than many other materials used in such structures.
Provision (g) would prohibit pedestrians from stopping on any said
bridge or s true ture for the purpose of obs erva ti on. The Ci vie
Design Commission feels that this provision is not only difficult
to enforce, but undesirable in intent.
Item (j) provides that no moving platform or sidewalk would be ·
permitted within said bridge or structure. This provision is
unconditional and we feel it is unnecessarily prohibitive in its
implications.
Section I I would empower the Mayor and Board of City Aldermen to
direct that any bridge or structure be removed without cost to the
City. This provision is stated without providing any statement of
cause or purpose for such a directive. The Civic Design Commission
again believes that this provision as presently stated does not
serve the best interests of the City.
The Civic Design Commission does believe that any proposal for bridges
or overpasses should be reviewed carefully by appropriate instru ments
of city government to insure that the safety and well-being of Atlanta ts
citizenry be cared for and that the aesthetic character of the City
be developed in a positive way . But the ordinance as currently proposed
would seem to discourage the planning and erection of bridges or similar
s tr uc tu res by:
(1) inhibiting good design on the part of architects and urban designers;
(2) virtually precluding steps in planning communication systems whi ch
would protect th e h eal th and safety of AtL:i nta's citizens;
(J) discouraging the full revitalization of the central city by its
inhibitive nature.
Mr. Collier Gladin of City Planning has submitted a report to the Civic
Design Com-mission, .a copy of which was attached to our report to Mr.
Nixon. Mr.- Gladin's report cites many instances across America where
the prohibitive provisions of this proposed ordinance would have curtailed the development of many meaningful projects.
The Civic Design Commission asks your careful scrutiny of the proposed
ordinance. We do not believe that it should be passed in its current
form.
Encl.
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              <text>joseph s. perrin, chairman
a a Nn el paul muldawer, a.i.a., vice-chairman
mrs. alvin m. ferst, secretary

a a ‘ .
harry j. baldwin, a.s.l.a.
C i VU i C w. 1. calloway
samuel inman cooper, f.a.i.a.

a james h, dodd

franklin m. garrett

john c. gould

julian harris, a.i.a.

a q mrs. edith henderson, a.s.l.a.
commission ea
j. ben moore

john portman, a.i.a.
joseph b. browder, p.e.

October 26, 1967

MEMO TOs: Mayor Ivan Allen, Jr,
VicceMayor Sam Massell, Jr,
Members of the Board of Aldermen
Mr, Ray A, Nixon, Direetor of Publie Works
Mr, Collier Gladin, Dircetor of Planning Dept.

FROM: Joseph S. Perrin, Chairman, Civic Design Commission

SUBJECT: Bridge Ordinance

The Civie Design Commission forwarded at an earlier time a report to
Mr. Ray Nixon and other city offieials our apposition to the proposed
bridge ordinanec. Since that time a revised edition has been issued,
No copy. of this edition was sent to the Civic Design Commission,
However, the revised version is also so highly restrictive as to have
the potential cffeet of militating against the soundest and fullest
development of our central city, Speeifically, the Civie Design
Commission feels that any ordinance dealing with these matters should
be-flexibic cnough to mect the ehanging needs of a progressive and
ehanging city such as ours, We feel that;

Item (e) of Scetion 1 of the ordinanec which sects 16' as a
maximum outside dimension, and a minimum inside width dimension
as 9', is highly arbitrary,

Item (d) stipulates that th maximum outside height dimension
should not exeeced 12', This would preclude any bridge being

built whieh is more than one story high. Here again the Civie
Design Commission feels that this restriction is highly inflexible
and may not meet the needs of our central eity whieh faces major
problems dealing with the separation of vehicular and pedestrian
traffic in the years ahead, We do not fcel that there is any
particular virturc or magic in the 12' restrietion,. In some eases,
more height may be practically and aesthetieally more desirable
than less,

city hall, atlanta,georgia 30303
Item (e) stipulates that glass may not be used nearer than 2"

from the floor of any proposed bridge. Our Commission feels that
this is a design and engineering problem and not one which right-
fully should be written in as a restriction in a proper ordinance
dealing with bridges and walkways. Obviously, various kinds of
glass are available today which by thickness and temper are stronger
than many other materials used in such structures,

Provision (g) would prohibit pedestrians from stopping on any said
bridge or structure for the purpose of observation, The Civic
Design Commission feels that this provision is not only difficult
to enforce, but undesirable in intent.

Item (j) provides that no moving platform or sidewalk would be-
permitted within said bridge or structure. This provision is
unconditional and we feel it is unnecessarily prohibitive in its
implications,

Section II would empower the Mayor and Board of City Aldermen to
direct that any bridge or structure be removed without cost to the
City. This provision is stated without providing any statement of
cause or purpose for such a directive. The Civic Design Commission
again believes that this provision as presently stated does not
serve the best interests of the City.

The Civic Design Commission does believe that any proposal for bridges
or overpasses should be reviewed carefully by appropriate instruments

of city government to insure that the safety and well-being of Atlanta's
citizenry be cared for and that the aesthetic character of the City

be developed in a positive way. But the ordinance as currently proposed
would seem to discourage the planning and erection of bridges or similar
structures by:

(1) inhibiting good design on the part of architects and urban designers;

(2) virtually precluding steps in planning communication systems which
would protect the health and safety of Atlanta's citizens;

(3) discouraging the full revitalization of the central city by its
inhibitive nature.

Mr. Collier Gladin of City Planning has submitted a report to the Civic
Design Commission, a copy of which was attached to our report to Mr,
Nixon, Mr. Gladin's report cites many instances across America where
the prohibitive provisions of this proposed ordinance would have cur-
tailed the development of many meaningful projects.

The Civic Design Commission asks your careful scrutiny of the proposed

ordinance, We do not believe that it should be passed in its current
form.

Encl.
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                    <text>October 30, 1967
Mr. Joseph S. Perrin
Georgia State College
33 Gilmer Street, S. E.
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
Dear Mr. Perrin:
May I acknowledge receipt of the memorandum.
from the Atlanta Civic Design Commission
regarding the proposed Bridge Ordinance.
I am sure that consideration will he given to
the specifications which you outlined.
Sincerely yours,
Ivan Allen, Jr.
M ayor
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              <text>October 30, 1967

Mr. Joseph S. Perrin
Georgia State College
33 Gilmer Street, S. E.
Atlanta, Georgia 30303

Dear Mr. Perrin:

May I acknowledge receipt of the memorandum
from the Atlanta Civic Design Commission
regarding the proposed Bridge Ordinance.

Iam sure that consideration will be given to
the specifications which you outlined.

Sincerely yours,

Ivan Allen, Jr.
Mayor

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                    <text>atlanta
civic
design
commission
joseph s. perr in 1 chairman
paul muldawer, a.i. a. 1 vice~chairman
mrs. alvin m. ferst, secretary
harry j. baldwin , a.s. l.a.
w. I. calloway
samue l inman cooper, f.a.i.a .
james h. dodd
franklin m. g a rrett
john c . gou ld
julian harris , a.i.a.
mrs. edith hende rson , a.s. l.a.
h. king me cain, p.e.
j. ben moore
john portman , a.i.a .
joseph b. browder, p.e.
November 16, 1967
MEMO TO:
Ann M0ses, Exe cutive Secre tar y to th e Mayor
FROM:
C ha r 1 o t t e Fe rs t
An n, can you help to set u p better co mm unicat i ons for us with
other r e lated gro u p s ?
Can somethin g be done to set up the
me chanics for advising us whe n important r e lated matters wi l l
b e coming up for discussion? Pe rha ps a lette r fro m Mayor All en
to each chairman of the Ald erm anic Commit tees to requ est this
courtesy for us wou l d hel p.
S o f- r e qu ently we hear about i mportant issu e s involvin g urb a n desi g n at the v e ry last minute.
Also, we are discussing requesting a liason commi t t ee member
from each related civic organiza ti on to be ava ilab l e for meetings on requ e st. Wh en we g e t our list compiled, wo ul d Ma yor
Allen be wi l l in g to send t he le tter of invitation?
CF/ab
city hall, atlanta, georgia 30303
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commission

joseph s. perrin, chairman
paul muldawer, a.i.a., vice-chairman
mrs. alvin m. ferst, secretary

harry j. baldwin, a.s.l.a.

w. |. calloway

samuel inman cooper, f.a.i.a.
james h. dodd

franklin m. garrett

john c. gould

julian harris, a.i.a,

mrs. edith henderson, a.s.l.a.
h. king me cain, p.e.

j. ben moore

john portman, a.i.a.

joseph b. browder, p.e.

November 16, 1967

MEMO TO: Ann Meses, Executive Secretary to the Mayor

FROM: Charlotte Ferst

Ann, can you help to set up better communications for us with
other related groups? Can something be done to set up the
mechanics for advising us when important related matters will
be coming up for discussion? Perhaps a letter from Mayor Allen
to each chairman of the Aldermanic Committees to request this
courtesy for us would help. So frequently we hear about impor~
tant issues involving urban design at the very last minute.

Also, we are discussing requesting a liason committee member
from each related civic organization to be available for meet-
ings on request. When we get our list compiled, would Mayor
Allen be willing to send the letter of invitation?

CF/ab

city hall, atlanta,georgia 30303
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                    <text>November 16, 1967
MEMORANDUM
TO
Charlotte Feret, AC.EC
FROM
Ann Moses
The request you have made is one of the most difficult, and one
which we have tried to find an a newer to since January 1, 1962.
There is no way to know what the issues are if you depend on
being notified.
I can put you on the mailing list to receive the Mayor's schedule
each week, showing also all the meetings to be held at City Hall.
Other than this, my only recommendation would be to have a
member of the ACDC attend the Committee meetings and call on
the various Department heads · twice a month. Even with this, you
may ~ t know all the important issues ahead of time.
We would be delighed to end the letter to the civic organization
to furni ha liaison member. You may wish to consider a join~
letter from the Mayor and Joe Perrin.
Advi e.
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              <text>November 16, 1967

MEMORANDUM
TO : Charlotte Ferst, ACDC
FROM : Ann Moses

The request you have made is one of the most difficult, and one
which we have tried to find an answer to since January 1, 1962.
There is no way to know what the issues are if you depend on
being notified.

I can put you on the mailing list to receive the Mayor's schedule
each week, showing also all the meetings to be held at City Hall.

Other than this, my only recommendation would be to have a
member of the ACDC attend the Committee meetings and call on
the various Department heads twice a month. Even with this, you
may apt know all the important issues ahead of time.

We would be delighed to send the letter to the civic organizations
to furnish a liaison member. You may wish to consider a joing
letter from the Mayor and Joe Perrin.

Advise.
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                    <text>iHNUTES
ATLANTA CIVIC DES!GN COMMISSION
NOVE MBER 9, 1967
The regular meeting of the Atlanta Civic Design Commissioh was held Thursday,
November 9, at 2 p.m,, in Committee Room #4, City Hall, with the following
r::iembers present:
Joseph S. Perrin, Chairman
Mrs. Alvin M. Ferst, Secretary
Harry J, Baldwin
•1'.r. L. Ca 11 oway
Samuel I. Cooptcr
John c. Gould
Julian Harris
H, King McCain
Guest present:
Howard Openshaw, Directo r
of Red e v e lopment, Atlanta Housing Authority
Minutes of the October 26 meeting will be distributed during the following
week, along with minut e s of the November 9 meeting.
CHAIRMAN I S REPORT
Mr . Perrin stated that following the last meeting, he had talked to
Alderman Mi llican who stated that action on the proposed bridge ordinance
will be delayed until members of th e Aldermanic Board and the ACDC can get
to ge ther to exchange views about the purpose and provisions of the ordinance.
Thus, th e chairman presented a letter to be forwarded to Alderman Millican
concerninE a date for the groups to meet.
After informin g Mr . Cecil Alexander that the ACDC was interested in se ei ng
the preliminary plans of the " Platform City," Mr. Perrin stat e d that Mr .
Alexander concurred that he will check with his associates and that the
Commission will ha ve the opportunity to r e view the proj e ct~
Th8 chairman reported that a prop osal · for review has bee n r e ceived from
Rob er t and Company , re th e Forsyth- Broad-Wa lton Streets area. as referred
to the Commission fr o m Mr . Ray Nixon. Th~ plans will be forwarded to Mr .
Muldawer , chairman of the Desig n Review Committee , for review.
It was brought out that members of the Commission are frequently embarrassed
when persons inquire about actions of the Commission rela t ive to projects
in t~e city, when the Co mmission has not b een advised of the development of
same. Thus, Mrs, .Ferst suggeste d th at another l e tter be designed, p ossibly
signed by Mayor Allen, to be forwarded to various city departments, requesting that the ACDC be advised in advance of the development of important
related issues.
The chairman also reported on the following correspondence:
1.
Letter of October 27 to Alderman Cook, forwarding ACDC's resolution
concerning th e Terminus a~ea, as presented by Mr. Garrett and approve d
by the Commission at the Octoher 26 meeting.
2.
The Design Review Committee's . report on the proposed Turnkey Publie
Housing Development at Hollywood Road, as forwarded to Mr. ~:atthew D.
Bys try on October 27.
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Letter of October 27 to Mayor Allen re recommendations to fill impending
vacancies on the Commission .
4.
Letter of Novem ber 2 to Mr. Herb Re e se, extending thanks for preparing
list of property o wners of the Terminus area.
5.
Le tter of November 2 to Mr , Robert Bivens, extending thanks for
inviting members of ACDC to meet with Central Atlanta Progress, Inc.,
on October 17,
6.
Draft of letter to b e for ward e d to the Mayer 1 s Office , recommending tha t
Mr. John Portman be invited by letter from the Mayor to serve as the
first member. of a special resource and advisory committe e of th e ACDC _,
OPENSHA W P RES ENTATION:
Mr. Howard Opensha w, on behalf of the Urban Rene wal Policy Committ~e for
the Board of Alderm e n, presented for revie w a proposal for a motel on
Capitol Avenu e , across from the Juvenile Court and Atlanta Stadium.
Durin g the discussion of th e proposed project, the question was posed if
p e rhaps th e City or State might ne e d this parc e l of land for future develop me nt.
Members expressed concern r e lative to this proposal as it r e lates to
thP- ne,··d for an overa ll master plan fo r th e governmental groups.
The se p lan s we re re t a ine d b y the Co mmission to be further studied by th e
Des i gn Rev ie w Co mm it tee , and a wri t ten r e por t submitted to th e Atl a n ta
Housing Au tho rity .
SE CRE TARY RE POR T:
Mrs. Ferst, Co - c hairman of the Co mm un i cat i on s Co mm i t t ee, r e po r t ed that she
h as talked with Mrs . An n Mo s e s in t he May or 1 s Off i ce ab out her h elp i n
setting up better comm unicati on s f o r the Co mmissio n wi th other re l ated gr o u ps.
Mrs. Fe rst reported that Ann Butler, Re co rd i n g Secre t a r y , wi l l prepa r e a
list of ACDC accomplishments fr o m t h e minutes of previous ACDC meetin r, s, and
will set up a c a rd file f o r the Commission ' s mailing list.
Mrs. F e rst s ub mitt e d a list of persons whom Mr. Mulda wer requ e sted be
i n v ite d to t he De c ember 14 me e ti ng .
COMMITTEE REP ORT
Hr,. McC a in, chairman of the Ap peara n ce &amp; Sa n ita t ion Commi tte e, presen t ed
information on a "rolling steel do o r " product t o ho u se ga rbag e cans. Durin g
the ensuing eonversation, me mbers di scu s se d pr oble ms fa ced b y th e city re la tive to sanitation and appeara nce.
Mr. Calloway su ggest e d th a t an ordinance
is needed whereby a tenant, rather than o nly the owner of prop e rty concerned,
could be held liable for violation of sanitation laws .
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AT' JOr HN 1 ErnT:
Hr. Perrin reminded the me mbers that a special meeting may be called within
the next few weeks concerning the bridge ordinance.
He added that the
December 14 meetin g , to which th e Terminus property CM'n ers and other per sons
concerned with the Terminus development are invited, will meet in the
Al4.ar-m.an.;i~ Chambers.
There being no further busine s s, th e meetinf,, was adjourned at
Ann Butler
Re cording S~eret ary
J:45
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              <text>MINUTES
ATLANTA CIVIC DESIGN COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 9, 1967

The regular mecting of the Atlanta Civic Design Commission was held Thursday,
November 9, at 2 p.m., in Committee Room #h, City Hall, with the following
members present:

Joseph S, Perrin, Chairman Samuel I, Cooper
Mrs. Alvin M, Ferst, Secretary John C, Gould
Harry J, Baldwin Julian Harris

", L, Calloway H, King McCain

Guest present:
Howard Openshaw, Direetor of Redevelopment, Atlanta Housing Authority

Minutes of the October 26 meeting will be distributed during the following
week, along with minutes of the November 9 meeting,

CHAIRMAN'S REPORT

Mr. Perrin stated that following the last meeting, he had talked to

Alderman Millican who stated that action on the proposed bridge ordinance
will be delayed until members of the Aldermanic Board and the ACDC can get
together to exchange views about the purpose and provisions of the ordinance,
Thus, the chairman presented a letter to be forwarded to Alderman Millican
concerning a date for the groups to meet.

After informing Mr, Cecil Alexander that the ACDC was interested in seeing
the preliminary plans of the "Platform City," Mr. Perrin stated that Mr.
Alexander coneurred that he will check with his associates and that the
Commission will have the opportunity to review the project,

The chairman reported that a proposal for review has been received from
Robert and Company, re the Forsyth-Broad-"alton Streets area, as referred
to the Commission from Mr, Ray Nixon, The plans will be forwarded to Mr,
Muldawer, chairman of the Design Review Committee, for review,

It was brought out that members of the Commission are frequently embarrassed
when persons inquire about aetions of the Commission relative to projects

in the city, when the Commission has not been advised of the development of
Same, Thus, Mrs, .Ferst suggested that another letter be designed, possibly
signed by Mayor Allen, to be forwarded to various city departments, request-
ing that the ACDC be advised in advance of the development of important
related issues,

The chairman also reported on the following correspondence:

1. Letter of October 27 to Alderman Cook, forwarding ACDC's resolution
concerning the Terminus area, as presented by Mr. Garrett and approved
by the Commission at the October 26 meeting.

2. The Design Review Committee's report on the proposed Turnkey Publie
Housing Development at Hollywood Road, as forwarded to Mr. Matthew D.
Bystry on Oetober 27.
3. Letter of October 27 to Mayor Allen re recommendations to fill impending
vacancies on the Commission,

h. Letter of November 2 to Mr, Herb Reese, extending thanks for preparing
list of property owners of the Terminus area,

S$. Letter of November 2 to Mr, Robert Bivens, extending thanks for
inviting members of ACDC to meet with Central Atlanta Progress, Inc.,
on October 17,

6. Draft of letter to be forwarded to the Maya's Office, recommending that
Mr. John Portman be invited by letter from the Mayor to serve as the
first member of a special resource and advisory committee of the ACDC.

~ OPENSHAW PRESENTATION:

 

Mr. Howard Openshaw, on behalf of the Urban Renewal Policy Committee for
the Board of Aldermen, presented for review a proposal for a motel on
Capitol Avenue, across from the Juvenile Court and Atlanta Stadium,

During the discussion of the proposed project, the question was posed if
perhaps the City or State might need this parcel of land for future develop-
ment. Members expressed concern relative to this proposal as it relates to
the nevd for an overall master plan for the governmental groups.

These plans were retained by the Commission to be further studied by the
Design Review Committee, and a written report submitted to the Atlanta
Housing Authority.

SECRETARY REPORT:

 

Mrs, Ferst, Co-chairman of the Communications Committee, reported that she
has talked with Vrs. Ann Moses in the Mayor's Office about her help in
setting up better communications for the Commission with other related groups,

Mrs. Ferst reported that Ann Butler, Recording Secretary, will prepare a
list of ACDC accomplishments from the minutes of previous ACDC meetings, and
will set up a card file for the Commission's mailing list.

Mrs. Ferst submitted a list of persons whom Mr. Muldawer requested be
invited to the December 1h meeting.

COMMITTEE REPORT

Mr, McCain, chairman of the Appearance &amp; Sanitation Committee, presented
information on a "rolling steel door" product to house garbage cans. During
the ensuing conversation, members discussed problems faced by the city rela-
tive to sanitation and appearance, Mr. Calloway suggested that an ordinance
is needed whereby a tenant, rather than only the owner of property concerned,
could be held liable for violation of sanitation laws.
ATJOURNMENT?

Mr. Perrin reminded the members that a special meeting may be ealled within
the next few weeks concerning the bridge ordinance, He added that the
December 1h meetings, to which the Terminus property owners and other persons
concerned with the Terminus development are invited, wiil meet in the
Aldermanic Chambers.

There being no further business, the meeting was sdjourned at 3:45

Ann Butler
Recording Seeretary
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                    <text>MINUTES
ATLANTA CIVIC DESIGN C OtPilSSI ON
OCTOBER
26, 1967
The regular meeting of the Atlanta Civic Design Commission was held Thursday,
J ~tober 26, at 2 p.m., in Committee Room #4, City Hall, with the following
!•. '-· ;i, be rs present:
Joseph S. Perrin, Chairman
Paul Muldawer, Vice-Chairman
Mrs. Alvin M. Ferst, Secretary
W, . L. Calloway
Samuel!. Cooper
Franklin M. Garrett
Mrs. Edith Henderson
H. King McCain
J. Ben Moore
Guest present:
Eric Harkness - Planning Dept.
Minutes of the October 12 meeting were corrected as follow:
(Page 3)
"Mr. Garrett was requested to draft a
resolution requesting the Board of Aldermen to
consider an ordinance designating the Terminus
area as an historic site."
CHAIRMA N I S REPORT:
Bridge Ordir1:~n~
The chairman presented for approval a letter to the Mayor and Board of
Aldermen concerning the proposed Bridge Ordinance. The letter was approved
for mailing, along with an editorial dea1ing with the bridge o·rdin a nce which
was published in the Atlanta Constitution on October 23, and presented by
Mrs. Ferst .
1!":mbers hip
... ' . Perrin presented a letter dated October 24 1 from the North Georgia
C~ n pte r, American Institute of Arc hitects, nominating Mr . Fred Bainbridge
of the firm of Martin &amp; Bainbridg~, to serve on the Commission. This l r~ '
i s the result of Mr . Mul dawer contacting AIA re nomination for ACDC member ship, as requested at th e last meeting~ Mrs. Henderson's motion to accept
AIA ' s nomination of Mr . Bainbridge was app~oved.
The following recommendati ons of the Com:n ission to Mayor ·Allen were approved:
Dr. Arthur G. Hansen (to replace Mr . Joseph B. Browder)
Engineering Category
3 year term
Mr. Fred Bainbridge (t o replace Mr. John Portman, who is recommended as the
first member of a proposed special resources and advis ory ~ nm~'A
toe to tha Commission)
Architecture Category
3 year term
Reappointments (for 3 year terms) of the follow i ng:
W. L. Calloway
Lay Citizen)
Julian Harris
(Painting &amp; Sculpture)
H. King McCain
(Eng ireering)
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Mrs. Ferst initiated a discussion during which several members concurred
in the view that Mr. John Portman was an invaluable resour~e for the
Commission and that though professional commitments prevented his regular
att e ndance, he perhaps would agree to serve on a special resources and
advisory committee to the Commission. Thereby, the chairman appointed the
following committee to discuss the feasibility of the appointment of oth e r
adn~-or:r · -eommittee members to assist in special projects of the Commission:
Mr~ McCain, chairman
Mrs. Ferst
Mr. Garrett
Mr. Huldawer
This committee was requested to present a report at the December
1L
meeting.
Easel
As the result of the Commission requesting an easel, to be used for the
presentation of plans, Mr. Perrin reported that Mrs. Price in the Uayor's
Offic e will proc es s the order for sam e upon r e ceipt of specifications and
source of supply. r/1.r. 1~uldawer will forward requested information to the
offic e .
VI CE-C HA IR VAN 1 S RE PO RT
Mr. Muld awe r gave a br ief summary of the me etin g which he and s evera l oth e r
members of th e Commission atte nd e d on Oc tobe r 17 wi th Ce ntral Atlanta
Progr e ss, Inc,
A joint City/CAP planning team is tr y in g to develope a
Cen tr a l Atlanta Acti on Progr am, and the ACDC was asked fo r their su gg estions
an d co mmen ts on c e rta in pha s es o f the pro g ram.
~ECR~TARY 1 ~ R~P ORT
Mr s . Fe rst pres e nte d a newspaper c li pp i ng from the New York Times, Concerni n g a des i g n c ommi ttee a ppointed by t he Ma yo r of New York , whieh is s i mi l ar
t o the ACDC . Add it i onal eopies of th e article are be ing prepare d.
CO}·ftfi l TTEF. REP OR TS :
~ i gn Re vie!
Mr . Muldawer submitted a rep o rt on the proposed . Turnke y Public Housing
De ve l o pment a t Hollywo od Road, a s r eviewed b y th e Commission at a p reviou s
mee t ing. This r ep o r t wi ll b e f orwar ded t o Mr . Matthe w Bystry , de ve l op er ,
who sub mitted t he pro j ec t f or review.
Mr. Muldawer also presen t ed a copy of proposed Design Cri t e r ia for V~ltipl e Dwelling Housing Proje cts, a s de vel ope d by Messr s , Eric Harkness and
Muldawer. Copies of the cri t eria will b e mailed to members for review.
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"Terminus 11
As requested at the last Acne meeting, Mr, Garrett presented a proposed
resolution requesting the Board of Aldermen to consider an ordinance
designating the Terminus area as an historic site. The resolution was
unanimously adopted and will be forwarded to Alderman Rodney Cook,
Mr. Garrett asked if the Terminus property owners had yet been sent letters
inviting them to meet with the Commission, as requested at a previous
meeting. The chairman replied that the list of property owners had only
that day been received from Mr. Herb Reese of Adams Cates Company. Mr.
Perrin proposed that the property owners be invited to the December- 14
meeting of the ACDC, at which time the Commission will request the use of
the Alde rma ni c Chamber.
It was suggested that along with the Terminus property owners, Alderman
Rodney Cook, Vice- Mayor Sam Masse 11, and three members of the Chamber of
Commerce be invited to this particular meeting. Mrs. Ferst was requested
to be thinking about how the information should be presented. The Commission
hopes to finalize plans at the next meeting.
Communications
Mrs. Ferst presented a written report, consisting of the following accomplishme nts or recommendations:
1.
Completion of double postcard mailing to verify mailing l ist of over
100 names.
2.
Co mpila tion of material for ACDC brochure.
J.
Arrange for secretary to compile l ist of ACD C accomplishments.
4.
Pl an f or mat for a regular a nnu al report.
S.
Request appointment of dinner committee to plan orientation meeting.
The following committee sugges ted: Mayor Allen, chairman; John
Portman, co-chairman; Ann Butler, member.
6.
A luncheon meeting comprised of ACDC and various designated persons to
plan the proposed dinner meeting .
This report was accepted with commendation , and authorization given to move
forward with plans as stated in t~e report.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Mr. Calloway inquired about the "Ugly Triangle II project, and the chairman
requested Committee #7 to report on this at the next meeting. Mr. Eric
Harkness will also check into this matter and report back to the Commission.
�- 4 NEV·1 BUSINESS
Mr. Moore, who was foreman of the Fulton County Grand Jury in July and August,
reported that the Grand Jury had forwarded the follo wing recommendations
to the City of Atlanta:
1.
That receptacles be placed in downtown Atlanta with placards;
2.
Passage of the tree ordinance;
J.
Require trucks hauling garbage and trash to be covered;
4.
Require cement trucks to remove the cement they dump on streets.
Mr. Perrin suggested that the Sanitary Committee move forward to support
these recommendations.
ADJOURNMr.:NT


There being no further busine ss , th e meeting was adjourned at 4 :00
Ann Butler
Reco.rding Se~ret.ary
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              <text>MINUTES
ATLANTA CIVIC DESIGN COM*ISSION
OCTOBER 26, 1967

The regular meeting of the Atlanta Civic Design Commission was held Thursday,
Setober 26, at 2 p.m., in Comnittee Room #h, City Hall, with the following
rembers present:

Joseph S, Perrin, Chairman Franklin M, Garrett
Paul Muldawer, Vice-Chairman Mrs, Edith Henderson
Mrs. Alvin M. Ferst, Secretary H. King McCain

W. L, Calloway J. Ben Moore

Samuel I, Cooper

Guest present;
Eric Harkness —- Planning Dept.

Minutes of the October 12 meeting were corrected as follow;
(Page 3) "Mr. Garrett was requested to draft a
resolution requesting the Board of Aldermen to

consider an ordinance designating the Terminus
area as an historic site,"

CHATRMAN'S REPORT:

 

Bridge Ordinance

The chairman presented for approval a letter to the Mayor and Board of
Aldermen concerning the proposed Bridge Ordinance, The letter was approved
for mailing, along with an editorial dealing with the bridge ordinance which
was published in the Atlanta Constitution on October 23, and presented by
Mrs. Ferst.

Membership

Perrin presented a letter dated October 2h, from the North Georgia
Coapter, American Institute of Architects, nominating Mr. Fred Bainbridge
of the firm of Martin &amp; Bainbridge, to serve on the Commission. This 1e*'
is the result of Mr. Muldawer contacting AIA re nomination for ACDC member-
ship, as requested at the last meeting. Mrs, Henderson's motion to accept
ATA's nomination of Mr, Bainbridge was approved,

The following recommendations of the Commission to Mayor Allen were approved:

Dr. Arthur G. Hansen (to replace Mr. Joseph B. Browder)
Engineering Category
3 year term

Mr. Fred Bainbridge (to replace Mr. John Portman, who is recommended as the
first member of a proposed special resources and advisory comr7**
tee to the Commission)

Architecture Category

3 year term

Reappointments (for 3 year terms) of the following:

W. L, Calloway Julian Harris H. King McCain
Lay Citizen) (Painting &amp; Sculpture) (Engine ering)
Advisory Committee

 

Mrs. Ferst initiated a discussion during which several members concurred

in the view that Mr. John Portman was an invaluable resource for the
Commission and that though professional commitments prevented his regular
attendance, he perhaps would agree to serve on a special resources and
advisory committee to the Commission, Thereby, the chairman appointed the
following committee to discuss the feasibility of the appointment of other
advisory eommittee members to assist in special projects of the Commission:

Nr, McCain, chairman
Mrs, Ferst

Mr. Garrett

Mr. Muldawer

This committee was requested to present a report at the December 1, meeting.

Easel

As the result of the Commission requesting an easel, to be used for the
presentation of plans, Mr. Perrin reported that Mrs, Price in the Mayor's
Office will process the order for same upon receipt of specifications and
Source of supply. Mr, Muldawer will forward requested information to the
office.

VICE-CHAIRMAN'S REPORT

Mr. Muldawer gave a brief summary of the meeting which he and several other
members of the Commission attended on October 17 with Central Atlanta
Progress, Ine, A joint City/CAP planning team is trying to develope a
Central Atlanta Action Program, and the ACDC was asked for their suggestions
and comments on certain phases of the progran,

SECRETARY'S REPORT

iirs, Ferst presented a newspaper clipping from the New York Times, Concern-
ing a design committee appointed by the Mayor of New York, whieh is similar
to the ACDC, Additional eopies of the article are being prepared,

COMMITTER REPORTS:

 

Design Review

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Mr. Muldawer submitted a report on the proposed Turnkey Public Housing
Development at Hollywood Road, as reviewed by the Commission at a previous
meeting, This report will be forwarded to Mr. Matthew Bystry, developer,
who submitted the project for review,

Mr. Muldawer also presented a copy of proposed Design Criteria for Multiple-
Dwelling Housing Projects, as developed by Messrs, Eric Harkness and
Muldawer, Copies of the criteria will be mailed to members for review,
"Terminus"

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As requested at the last ACDC meeting, Mr, Garrett presented a proposed
resolution requesting the Board of Aldermen to consider an ordinance
designating the Terminus area as an historic site. The resolution was
unanimously adopted and will be forwarded to Alderman Rodney Cook,

Mr. Garrett asked if the Terminus property owners had yet been sent letters
inviting them to meet with the Commission, as requested at a previous
meeting. The chairman replied that the list of property owners had only
that day been received from Mr, Herb Reese of Adams Cates Company. Mr.
Perrin proposed that the property owners be invited to the December ll
meeting of the ACDC, at which time the Commission will request the use of
the Aldermanic Chamber,

It was suggested that along with the Terminus property owners, Alderman
Rodney Cook, Vice-Mayor Sam Massell, and three members of the Chamber of
Commerce be invited to this particular meeting. Mrs. Ferst was requested

to be thinking about how the information should be presented, The Commission
hopes to finalize plans at the next meeting.

Communications

Mrs. Ferst presented a written report, consisting of the following accomplish-
ments or recommendations:

1. Completion of double posteard mailing to verify mailing list of over
100 names,

2. Compilation of material for ACDC brochure.

3. Arrange for secretary to compile list of ACDC accomplishments.

4h. Plan format for a regular annual report,

5. Request appointment of dinner committee to plan orientation meeting.
The following committee suggested: Mayor Allen, chairman; John

Portman, co-chairman; Ann Butler, member,

6. A luncheon meeting comprised of ACDC and various designated persons to
plan the proposed dinner meeting.

This report was accepted with commendation, and authorization given to move
forward with plans as stated in the report.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS

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Mr. Calloway inquired about the "Ugly Triangle" project, and the chairman
requested Committee #7 to report on this at the next meeting. Mr. Eric
Harkness will also check into this matter and report back to the Commission,
NEW BUSINESS

Mr. Moore, who was foreman of the Fulton County Grand Jury in July and August,
reported that the Grand Jury had forwarded the following recommendations
to the City of Atlanta;

1. That receptacles be placed in downtown Atlanta with placards;

2. Passage of the tree ordinance;

3. Require trucks hauling garbage and trash to be covered;

4. Require cement trucks to remove the cement they dump on streets,

Mr, Perrin suggested that the Sanitary Committee move forward to support
these recommendations,

ADJOURNM™NT

There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at }:00

Ann Butler
Recarding Secretary
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                    <text>. CITY HALL
ATLANTA,
GEORGIA
SAMUEL INMAN COOPER, F',A,l,A,, CHAIRMAN
JOSEPHS. PERRIN , \/IC&amp;•CHAIRMAN 1
MRS, Al.VIN M, F'ERST, 11.CRli:TA,.V
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JUL.IAN HARRIS, A,1,A,
GEORGE HEERY, A.I.A,
MAS, EDITH HENDERSON, A,S,L,A,
H, KINQ MCCAIN, P, E,
J, BEN MOORE
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PAUL MULOAWEA, A, l,A,
JOHN PORTMAN, A.I.A,
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Head, Department of City Planning
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Dear Mr. Gladin:
This is in response to your request for Atlanta Civic Design
Commission Review of the report on Design prepared as part of the City of
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the general discussion of design principles and objectives. We also
thought a good job was done in identifying some specific problems requiring
attention in the Atlanta area. We were particularly impressed with the
· choice and range of photographs and graphics used to point up these
problem areas.
In short, the committee would have little quarrel with the
general material contained in the body of the report. On the other hand,
it is the consensus of the Commission that the report was extremely weak
in the area of major concern to both public officials and interested
citizens and of special concern to members of the Atlanta Civic Design
Comrnission--namely in the area of specific proposals and reco1Tll!1endations.
We would be less than frank if we failed to state that we had
hoped for more specific advice as to what steps this community should
be taking now t o achieve better urban design in the future. Of nine items
included in the Summary of Major Recommendations (page 3 of the r eport)
we find only two that are reasonably specific--one calling for a CBD
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plan and the other calling for an ordinance to regulate the removal .of
mature trees. Unfrotunately, even these recommendations are weakened
somewhat by their position at the tail end of the list.
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in the United States today. They do not, unfortunately, reflect some
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Taking the points covered in the recommendations in the order
of their appearance, we would make the following comments:
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(2) . The Commission would agree that "Physical Design plans related
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the best professional designers available." We would have
appreciated some specific recommendations as to how this
might be accomplished. For example, we believe that more use
might be made of design competitions and we had hoped to see
some discussion of whether and under ·what circumstances the
consultant would support or oppose such procedures. Also,
some consideration of an "awards program" might have been
provided in the report.
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The stc1tement of need "from the public and private leadership
of Atlanta to a goal of a well designed city and to the program
needed to achieve it" would certainly have the support of
every Design Commission member. We do wish that more emphasis
had been placed in the study on the development of such a
program.
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city must prepare and adopt a design-growth strategy. 11 The
report, however, is not too clear on what such a strategy
would consist of or how to achieve i~.
The Commission would most likely support the consultants'
recommendations that design controls need to be improved
"through strengthening of the Subdivision and Zoning Ordinances II and probably that the Civic Design Corrm1ission needs
to be strengthened also, but we are not too clear as to how
this is to be accomplished. It would have been helpf ul if
the Consultant could have provided some specific ammendments
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CITY HALL
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SAMUEL INMAN COOPER, F.Asle Ans CHAIRMAN ; ; :
JOSEPH S, PERRIN, VICE*CHAIRMAN’ A &lt;5 a |

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MRS, ALVIN M. FERST, SECRETARY me = . June 1, 1967
HARRY J. DALOWIN, AsSeleAs ae ; ‘

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JULIAN HARRIS, Aili Ae

GEORGE HEEARY, Avle A.

MAS. EDITH HENDERSON, A.Sibe As
H. KING MCCAIN, P. E.

J. BEN MOORE

PAUL MULDAWER, As LAs

JOHN PORTMAN, A.A.

 

Mr. Collier Gladin

Head, Department of City Planning
‘City Hall

Atlanta, Georgia 30303

Dear Mr. Gladin:

This is in response to your request for Atlanta Civic Design
Commission Review of the report on Design prepared as part of the City of
Atlanta's Community Improvement Program by Candeub, Fleissig and Associates,
Planning Consultants.

In general we found the report to be informative and useful in
the general discussion of design principles and objectives. We also
thought a good job was done in identifying some specific problems requiring
attention in the Atlanta area. We were particularly impressed with the
choice and range of photographs and graphics used to point up these
problem areas,

In short, the committee would have little quarrel with the
general material contained in the body of the report. On the other hana,
it is the consensus of the Commission that the report was extremely weak
in the area of major concern to both public officials and interested |
citizens and of special concern to members of the Atlanta Civic Design i
Commission--namely in the area of specific proposals and recommendations.

 

We would be less than frank if we failed to state that we had \
hoped for more specific advice as to what steps this community should :
be taking now to achieve better urban design in the future. Of nine items
included in the Summary of Major Recommendations (page 3 of the report)
we find only two that are reasonably specific--one calling for a CBD
plan and the other calling for an ordinance to regulate the removal of «lt
mature trees. Unfrotunately, even these recommendations are weakened
somewhat by their position at the tail end of the list.

The other seven items might more properly be classified as
statements of general need rather than firm recommendations to be im-
plemented. For the most part they could be advanced for any urban area

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in the United States today. They do not, unfortunately, reflect some
of the thoughtful analysis contained in the body of the Design Report

itself.

Taking the points covered in the recommendations in the order

of their appearance, we would make the following comments:

(1) The statement of need "from the public and private leadership

(2)

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(5)

(6)

of Atlanta to a goal of a well designed city and to the program
needed to achieve it" would certainly have the support of

every Design Commission member. We do wish that more emphasis
had been placed in the study on the development of such a
program.

The Commission would agree that "Physical Design plans related
.to the Community Improvement Program must be carried out by
the best professional designers available." We would have
appreciated some specific recommendations as to how this

might be accomplished. For example, we believe that more use
might be made of design competitions and we had hoped to see
some discussion of whether and under what circumstances the
consultant would support or oppose such procedures. Also,
some consideration of an "awards program" might have been
provided in the report.

The Commission would probably support the idea that "The

. city must prepare and adopt a design-growth strategy." The
. report, however, is not too clear on what such a strategy

would consist of or how to achieve it.

The Gommission would most likely support the consultants'
recommendations that design controls need to be improved
"through strengthening of the Subdivision and Zoning Ordi-
nances" and probably that the Civic Design Commission needs
to be strengthened also, but we are not too clear as to how
this is to be accomplished. It would have been helpful if
the Consultant could have provided some specific ammendments

(in rough draft) for consideration of public officials and
Commission members.

The statement that "a commitment is essential by all city
departments to design policies adopted by the city" is again
something all Design Commission members would support but we
would have liked to have received some guidance as to svecific
steps that might be taken to achieve it.

The suggestion that a "design officer is needed" is interesting.
We wish it had been accompanied by a firm recommendation as

to his duties and recommended location within the structure of
local government. The suggestion that he serve a city agency

(existing or new) leaves the basic qveeaeis hanging without
much hope for support.

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eu 7)". The statement that "a formal design review procedure" is
“7. #" needed is confusing insofar as the Atlanta Civic Design
-. =!" Gommission is serving such a function at the present time.
'- Tf the intent was to require that all major private construc- -
tion in the city be made subject to such review, we wish it _
had been stated more clearly. Under this circumstance, we
also would like to see some consideration of recommended

limits and cut-off points for review of private construction.

 

(8 &amp; 9) Again, we WUpport the recommendations that a CBD plan and

tree ordinance ‘be developed. We would have preferred to see these

items heading this particular list because the bottom position
does appear to weaken them. ,

In summary, we feel the report falls short in the most important
area--the area of recommendations. We are concerned both with the
recommendations actually presented and with those that were not. We
believe that the hand of public agencies concerned with design matters
in the city would have been strengthened by 1) a much stronger statement
of the case for a CBD plan; 2) a strong recommendation that a visual
survey and design program be developed and implemented with specific
recommendations as to how this might be done; 3) a draft of specific
amendments to the subdivision ordinance, zoning ordinance, building codes,
etc.; 4) firm recommendations for a ‘study of the impact of ad valorem
taxation on design; 5) recommendations for development of an incentives

program (awards or other) for encouraging good design; 6) recommendations |

regarding whether and how design competitions might be employed in the
furtherance of good design; 7) recommendations regarding adoption of 4
sign ordinance; 8) recommendations regarding the development. of design
plans for specific major streets, expressways, rapid transit system and_
public open spaces, and so forth.

It may be argued that some of this thinking is incorporated in
the body of the report and we would agree that some of it is. But we
would also state our belief that it will not be read or, if read, not
taken seriously unless it is stated explicitly and with conviction in
the Summary of Major Recommendations at the beginning of the report. It
is the hope of the Design Commission that the city or its consultants
will be in position to follow through with the good start that has been
made to develop a specific, comprehensive program for achievement of
the design goals and objectives stated so well in the design report.

We thank you for the opportunity of reviewing this material.
if there are any questions, please feel free to call on us for further
clarification. -

Very truly yours, :.'

tt seph S. Perrin

JSP/mjd Sure Chairman , i,

cc: Mayor I. Allen
Aldermanic Board

 

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De c emb e r
7, 196 7
Honora ble Ivan All en, J r.
May or
City of At la n ta
De a r
Mr. Mayor :
Included with this not e is the r e port on th e De sign ( CQmmun i ty
I mprove rren t P rogram - City of Atla nta, Ge or gia ) a b out wh i ch we
sp ke in your offic e last wee k.
As y ou c an s ee , this rep ort wa s
re nd e r e d by th e C mmission to Mr. Co l l i e r Gladin on Jun e 1 f
thi s year .
Ch a rl tt e Fe rst a nd John P ortman Join with me in e xpr e ssin g t o
you f r the Commi ssi o n a pp re ciation f or y ur i n t e r e st a nd i n s ig h t s
whic h yo u we r e g o d e nou g h to sha r e wi th us durin g our inf o rmal
cha t , a nd we ad d to t hese se nti me nt s t he v e r y b e st of g oo d wi s h es
for t he holid ay s ea son.
eph S . Perr i n, Cha i rman
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              <text>joseph s. perrin, chairman

at la nta paul muldawer, a.i.a., vice-chairman
mrs, alvin m. ferst, secretary

a a , rn
harry j. baldwin, a.s.l.a.
C iViIC w. |. calloway
samuel inman cooper, f.a.i.a.

a james h. dodd
franklin m. garrett

john c. gould

julian harris, a.i.a.

a a mrs. edith henderson, a.s.l.a.
commission eat
j. ben moore

john portman, a.i.a.

joseph b. browder, p.e.

December 7, 1967

Honerable Ivan Allen, Jr.
May or
City of Atlanta

Dear Mr. Mayer:

Included with this note is the report on the Design (Community
Improvement Pregram - City of Atlanta, Georgia) about which we
speke in your office last week, As you can see, this report was
rendered by the Commissien to Mr. Collier Gladin on June l of

this year.

Charlette Ferst and John Portman join with me in expressing te

you fer the Commission appreciatien for your interest and insights
which yeu were geed eneugh te share with us during eur infermal
chat, and we add to these sentiments the very best of good wishes

for the holiday season,
Cerdially yours,
Joseph S, Perrin, Chairman
ATLANTA CIVIC DESIGN COMMISSION

JSP:ab

Enel.

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RESOLUTION TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN ~ CITY OF ATLANTA
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RE: ARBORIST FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTA

"THE CIVIC DESIGN COMMISSION URGES THE ALDERMANIC BOARD TO PUT
THE TREE ORDINANCE INTO EFFECT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE FOR THE
GOOD OF THE CITY BY THE IMMEDIATE APPOINTMENT OF AN ARBORIST,
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GRADES AND DRAINAGE BUT ALSO IN DESIGN FORMS AND PLANT MATERIAL,
DELAY WILL UNDOUBTEDLY LEAD TO MISUNDERSTANDING AND WEAKENING

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                    <text>December 28 , 1961
MEMORANDUM
TO
FROM





Joe Perrin, Chairman, Atlanta
Civic Design Commission
Ivan Allen , Jr .
As you know, Mr. Samuel Inman Cooper's architectural firm
ha received the contract from the City of Atlanta for the
renovation of the Aldermanic chamber •
I would like to suggest to the Atlanta Civic De ign Commi ion
that you recommend an appropriate di play are in the chamber
for the many portr its of former mayor which are now hangin
on the fir t floor and in ome of the committee room •
May I al o suggest th t consider tion be given to the renovation
of the e portr it , which may not be arti tic lly well done in
your opinion, but are an important part of th city' bi tory.
Further thought may al o b given to having portrait commissioned
of those mayor's not pre ntly painted.
I would appreciate receiving your view on th ae subjects.
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MEMORANDUM

TO : Joe Perrin, Chairman, Atlanta
Civic Design Commission

FROM : Ivan Allen, Jr.

As you know, Mr. Samuel Inman Cooper's architectural firm
has received the contract from the City of Atlanta for the
renovation of the Aldermanic chambers.

I would like to suggest to the Atlanta Civic Design Commission
that you recommend an appropriate display area in the chambers
for the many portraits of former mayors which are now hanging

_ on the first floor and in some of the committee rooms.

May I also suggest that consideration be given to the renovation
of these portraits, which may not be artistically well done in
your opinion, but are an important part of the city's history.

Further thought may also be given to having portraits commissioned
of those mayor's not presently painted.

I would appreciate receiving your views on these subjects.

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I(
·"Cover&amp; Di.xie Like ·tM Dew"
Since 1883
Jack Tarver, President
Jack Spaiding, Editor
•
EDITORIALS
24
OCTOBER 24, 1966
ATLANTA D0WN UNDER
They Can Hear the Old Rinky-Tink Now
By REESE CLEGHORN
THE IDEA of reviving Atlanta's deserted underground streets,
haunting reminders of hqw the city was a century ago, has
been moving some imaginations.
Here is where we left that subject (a flashback, in the style of the old flicks):
Under Alabama Street, an older Alabama
Street exists. At least two and perhaps four
blocks of it, with original street-level store
fronts, livery stables and saloons, is regarded
as reclaimable, along with some of the side
streets.
It is possible to enter this part of "underground Atlanta" from the present Alabama
Street, though all is now dark and forbidding, used mainly by
trucks for deliveries to below-street-level entrances of Alabama Street buildings.
Still, on that underground Alabama Street you may see,
at No. 38, a gilded inscription indicating the Lowry Bank, founded in 1861, and across the street from it is the stone arch that
once marked the entrance to one of the meat packers of Packinghouse Row. The Atlanta Chamber of Commerce held forth
at No. 44, and at No. 69 people reveled at Paul Hentschel's
Saloon.
So much for the scene.
• • •
A MONTH AGO, when I wrote about the possibility that
this and perhaps other parts of "underground Atlanta" might
be carefully re-created in the style of earlier days, the whole
thing was only an idea in a few heads.
The Civic Design Commission had been looking into the
possibilities. What appeared in print about the idea moved a
good many people to call Paul Muldawer, a young architect
who is on the commission, to express enthusiastic interest. He
welcomes such calls. And he now reports that he and others
of the commission have been moving along with more explorations of the prospects.
I also have had many responses, and that suggests to me
that the idea would be a popular one and a re-creation of the
old Atlanta would draw plenty of customers. Among those who
have reacted happily to the idea are the people at the Atlanta
Convention Bureau, who obviously would have something very
unusual to tell our visitors about.
• • •
SO A SMALL LIST is now being compiled by Mr. Muldawer
indicating who thinks what about this still-aborning idea:
One caller would like to put in a night club and lounge In
the 19th century decor, if other entrepreneurs would join him
down under; and now there also is a suggestion that an old
locomotive (or the dining car of an old train) be rolled down
the tracks that still exist and placed within reach of the visitors.
Mr. Hugh Starr has called me and told of a rare collection
which I did not know existed. Mr. Starr for many years has
been collecting old mechanical music devices. He has more
than 50, most of them large and valuable.
One, for instance, is a seven-feet-tall mechanical organ with
256 pipes, vintage 1910, which bursts into a frenzy of " Let Me
Call You Sweetheart" when Mr. Starr flicks it on.
There is an old band organ that whips out "Old McDonald"
on 13 brass trumpets, 98 wooden pipes, a bass drum, a snare
drum and a cymbal, all of it a veritable cacaphonic extravaganza of early automation. (Hear! hear!)













..MR. STARR'S COLLECTION also includes a player piano
that has eight separate slots for nickels (apparently so that
one's enjoyment could be prolonged without the necessity of
leaving the bar); a genuine Violano-Virtuoso, circa 1912, which
combines violin and piano music in a mechanical rhapsody;
and, sir, a band organ that plays a continuous r oll of music
650 feet Jong.
Now: Mr. Starr is pondering whether a revived " underground ·Atlanta" might have room for a museum of old musical
instrument curiosities.
An even more obvious entry might be a drug store of
early vintage, perhaps equipped with the paraphernalia of the
early soft-drink industry in Atlanta. I shall not mention any
commercial names here (other than that of the late ViolanoVirtuoso company), but there is one firm in town that does, in
fact, spring to mind.
Minds are beginning to whir on all such dazzling prospects.
In fact, some people are even said to be hearing the faint, ghostly notes of a rinky-tink.
• • •
MEANWllILE, THERE IS only one bit of discouragement.
The Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority has been
eyeing our underground city with an undisguised hankering. It
thinks it might like to place the downtown Transit Center (meeting place of the north-south and east-west subway lines) in
"underground Atlanta." It, too, is studying the area.
But there is a large area in this underground city; and the
only part of it which is being considered for a revival of the
past is the short stretch under Alabama Street. Certainly it
would be a shame, and perhaps it would be a kind of disaster,
if that area had to be sacrificed to rapid transit.
Anyone who has a serious interest in all this should make
himself heard. This part of Atlanta's heritage is too good
to lose to disinterest and the march of the great giant Progress.
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“Covers Dixie Like the Dew”
Since 1883

Jack Tarver, President ©

Jack Spalding, Editor

 

EDITORIALS

24

OCTOBER 24, 1966

 

ATLANTA DOWN UNDER

 

They Can Hear the Old Rinky-Tink Now

By REESE CLEGHORN

THE IDEA of reviving Atlanta’s deserted underground streets,
haunting reminders of how the city was a century ago, has
been moving some imaginations.

Here is where we left that subject (a flash-
back, in the style of the old flicks):

Under Alabama Street, an older Alabama
Street exists. At least two and perhaps four
blocks of it, with original street-level store /
fronts, livery stables and saloons, is regarded \
as reclaimable, along with some of the side
streets.

It is possible to enter this part of “‘under-
ground Atlanta” from the present Alabama
Street, though all is now dark and forbidding, used mainly by
trucks for deliveries to below-street-level entrances of Ala-
bama Street buildings,

Still, on that underground Alabama Street you may see,
at No. 38, a gilded inscription indicating the Lowry Bank, found-
ed in 1861, and across the street from it is the stone arch that
once marked the entrance to one of the meat packers of Pack-
inghouse Row. The Atlanta Chamber of Commerce held forth
at No. 44, and at No. 69 people reveled at Paul Hentschel’s
Saloon.

So much for the scene.

= * *

A MONTH AGO, when I wrote about the possibility that
this and perhaps other parts of “underground Atlanta” might
be carefully re-created in the style of earlier days, the whole
thing was only an idea in a few heads.

The Civic Design Commission had been looking into the
possibilities. What appeared in print about the idea moved a
good many people to call Paul Muldawer, a young architect
who is on the commission, to express enthusiastic interest. He
welcomes such calls. And he now reports that he and others
of the commission have been moving along with more explora-
tions of the prospects.

I also have had many responses, and that suggests to me
that the idea would be a popular one and a re-creation of the
old Atlanta would draw plenty of customers. Among those who
have reacted happily to the idea are the people at the Atlanta
Convention Bureau, who obviously would have something very
unusual to tell our visitors about.

“ *, *

SO A SMALL LIST is now being compiled by Mr. Muldawer
indicating who thinks what about this still-aborning idea:

One caller would like to put in a night club and lounge in
the 19th century decor, if other entrepreneurs would join him
down under; and now there also is a suggestion that an old

s "

locomotive (or the dining car of an old train) be rolled down :
the tracks that still exist and placed within reach of the visitors,

Mr. Hugh Starr has called me and told of a rare collection
which I did not know existed. Mr, Starr for many years has
been collecting old mechanical music devices. He has more
than 50, most of them large and valuable.

One, for instance, is a seven-feet-tall mechanical organ with
256 pipes, vintage 1910, which bursts into a frenzy of “Let Me
Call You Sweetheart” when Mr. Starr flicks it on.

There is an old band organ that whips out “Old McDonald”
on 13 brass trumpets, 98 wooden pipes, a bass drum, a snare
drum and a cymbal, all of it a veritable cacaphonic extrava-
ganza of early automation. (Hear! hear!)

* * ae

MR. STARR’S COLLECTION also includes a player piano
that has eight separate slots for nickels (apparently so that
one’s enjoyment could be prolonged without the necessity of
leaving the bar); a genuine Violano-Virtuoso, circa 1912, which
combines violin and piano musie in a mechanical rhapsody;
and, sir, a band organ that plays a continuous roll of music
650 feet long.

Now: Mr. Starr is pondering whether a revived ‘‘under-
ground Atlanta’ might have room for a museum of old musical
instrument curiosities.

An even more obvious entry might be a drug store of
early vintage, perhaps equipped with the paraphernalia of the
early soft-drink industry in Atlanta, I shall not mention any
commercial names here (other than that of the late Violano-
Virtuoso company), but there is one firm in town that does, in
fact, spring to mind.

Minds are beginning to whir on all such dazzling prospects.
In fact, some people are even said to be hearing the faint, ghost-
ly notes of a rinky-tink.

+ * *

MEANWHILE, THERE IS only one bit of discouragement.
The Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority has been
eyeing our underground city with an undisguised hankering. It
thinks it might like to place the downtown Transit Center (meet-
ing place of the north-south and east-west subway lines) in
“underground Atlanta.’’ It, too, is studying the area.

But there is a large area in this underground city; and the
only part of it which is being considered for a revival of the
past is the short stretch under Alabama Street. Certainly it
would be a shame, and perhaps it would be a kind of disaster,
if that area had to be sacrificed to rapid transit.

Anyone who has a serious interest in all this should make
himself heard. This part of Atlanta’s heritage is too good
to lose to disinterest and the march of the great giant Progress.

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                    <text>Wl)tAlhmfa Journal
"Covers Dixie Like the Dew"
Since 1883
Jock Tarver, President
•
Jack Spalding, Editor
20- -
ED1TORIALS
SEPTEMBER 21, 1966\ _
___,
OUR UNDERGROUND CITY
Will Ghost Streets of Atlanta live Again?
By REESE CLEGHORN
ATLANTA'S name was changed in 1844 from Terminus to
Marthasville. But you may still take a train to Terminus.
In fact, you may walk to it.
The center of Terminus exists under the
Central A venue Viaduct in Atlanta. It is a stone
marker a couple of feet high, with the chiseled
notation "W &amp; A R.R. , 0 O." This is the Zero
Mile Post, and it was put into the ground in
1842 as the first of a series of mU.e posts marking the route of a new railroad b, tween Atlanta
and Chattanooga.
But this was not Atlanta. It was Terminus,
because this was the end of the line, and the
city was nothing much then except the end of the new railroad
line.


 * *


trucks roll daily, delivering to underground entrances of buildings that rise over the older structures. Many of the old stores
are now siborage places. On some parts of the underground
streets, light shines through; other parts are dark.
When the first Broad Street overpass was constructed in
1852, part of the older Atlanta was submerged. When-the Spring
Street overpass was finished in 1922, Underground Atlanta grew
again. This building-over process is still being regularly repeated.
Walk along the older Alabama Street and at No. 38 you
may see a gilded inscription indicating the Lowry Bank, which
was founded in 1861.
At No. 44 on this old Alabama Street, in the 1870s, the Atlanta Chamber of Commerce was busy, no doubt with an early
Forward Atlanta program. At No. 69 people were more relaxed :
This was Paul Hentschel's Saloon.
IT WOULD BE difficult to find anything that means as


 * *


much in Atlanta's history as this marker. It designated the ter- ..
ACROSS FROM Mr. Lowry's private bank, ornamental
mination that gave us the city's first name. And on it are the
posts stand alongside the stone arch marking the entrance to
initials that gave us the word " Atlanta," derived from the one of the meat packers of Packinghouse Row.
name of the state-owned Western &amp; Atlantic Railroad.
(Gisell Sieburth wrote about these and other buildings
ln December of 1842 crowds came to see the first locomo- whose history she had traced, in the Journal-Constitution Magative move over the tracks, and that may have been the real
zine last December.)
beginning of Atlanta, because the city grew first as a transCan the dark rooms behind ornat e old Victorian-style posts
portation center.
be turned into new restaurants, with some old-style furnish·
ings? Can there be restoration of painted glass now removed,
In the dim light under the viaduct, and near the tracks, with- and refurbishing of cast-iron fronts? Will Paul Hentschel's SaIn a fenced enclosure, you may see the Zero Mile Post where loon swing again?
it all started.
That is what is on the minds of some of those now con"' * "'
templa ting this germ of an idea. They think there may be a
THIS IS ONE P ART of Underground Atlanta. There ls much
chance to convert several underground blocks into a popular
more, because this is a city that was built in layers. Now our center of restaurants, galleries, night spots and shops, all in
new Civic Design Commission has begun a serious inquiry into the style of the old Atlanta.
possibilities of bringing to life the old city underneath.


 "' "'


So far this is just an idea. The commission wants to deterTHERE IS ROOM for an impressive entranceway at one
mine the feasibility for use of Underground Atlanta as an en- point on the present Alabama Street, where stairs and planted
tertainment area. This may depend upon the willingness of the landings might lead the visit.ors int.o the old city. Could there
property owners and the interest of the public.
be a horse-and-buggy shuttle service waiting below, to take
Under Alabama Street is an older Alabama Street, an ol!}er people on the original cobblestone streets, under gas lights, to
city. At least two and perhaps four blocks of it, with origitial
their destinations?
street-level store fronts, livery stables and saloons, might be reA committee of the Civic Design Commission wants to
claimed, along with some of the side streets.
find out. Paul Muldawer, an architect who is a member of IJhe
committee, believes all this may be feasible-if there is public


 * *


TIIlS AREA, like a number of other segments ef the older response to the idea. He hopes to hear.
city under other streets and viadu0t$, can be easily reached
" Every city needs something people will point to as truly
and, in fact, is still in use. On many of these dead streets
unique," he said, " and for Atlanta this could be it."
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              <text>“Covers Dixie Like the Dew”
Since 1883

Jack Tarver, President

&gt; EDITORIALS
OUR UNDERGROUND CITY

° Jack Spalding, Editor

20

"SEPTEMBER 21, 1966) -

Will Ghost Streets of Atlanta Live Again? ‘

By REESE CLEGHORN

ATLANTA'S name was changed in 1844 from Terminus to
Marthasville. But you may still take a train to Terminus.
In fact, you may walk to it.
The center of Terminus exists under the
Central Avenue Viaduct in Atlanta. It is a stone
marker a couple of feet high, with the chiseled
notation “W &amp; A R.R., O 0.” This is the Zero
Mile Post, and it was put into the ground in -%
1842 as the first of a series of mile posts mark- \‘:
ing the route of a new railroad between Atlanta
and Chattanooga.
But this was not Atlanta. It was Terminus,
because this was the end of the line, and the
So was nothing much then except the end of the new railroad
Ine.
He * Eg

IT WOULD BE difficult to find anything that means as.

much in Atlanta’s history as this marker. It designated the ter- .

mination that gave us the city’s first name. And on it are the
initials that gave us the word ‘“‘Atlanta,” derived from the
name of the state-owned Western &amp; Atlantic Railroad.

In December of 1842 crowds came to see the first locomo-
tive move over the tracks, and that may have been the real
beginning of Atlanta, because the city grew first as a trans-
portation center.

In the dim light under the viaduct, and near the tracks, with-
in a fenced enclosure, you may see the Zero Mile Post where
it all started.

cd Ed ae

THIS IS ONE PART of Underground Atlanta. There is much
more, because this is a city that was built in layers. Now our
new Civic Design Commission has begun a serious inquiry into
possibilities of bringing to life the old city underneath.

So far this is just an idea. The commission wants to deter-
mine the feasibility for use of Underground Atlanta as an en-
tertainment area. This may depend upon the willingness of the
property owners and the interest of the public.

Under Alabama Street is an older Alabama Street, an older
city. At least two and perhaps four blocks of it, with original
street-level store fronts, livery stables and saloons, might be re-
claimed, along with some of the side streets.

* * ae

THIS AREA, like a number of other segments of the older
city under other streets and viaducts, can be easily reached
and, in fact, is still in use. On many of these dead streets

trucks roll daily, delivering to underground entrances of build-
ings that rise over the older structures. Many of the old stores
are now storage places. On some parts of the underground
streets, light shines through; other parts are dark.

When the first Broad Street overpass was constructed in
1852, part of the older Atlanta was submerged. When the Spring
Street overpass was finished in 1922, Underground Atlanta grew
again. This building-over process is still being regularly re-
peated.

Walk along the older Alabama Street and at No. 38 you
may see a gilded inscription indicating the Lowry Bank, which
was founded in 1861.

At No. 44 on this old Alabama Street, in the 1870s, the At-
Janta Chamber of Commerce was busy, no doubt with an early
Forward Atlanta program. At No. 69 people were more relaxed:
This was Paul Hentschel’s Saloon.

ae ae ae

ACROSS FROM Mr. Lowry’s private bank, ornamental
posts stand alongside the stone arch marking the entrance te
one of the meat packers of Packinghouse Row.

(Gisell Sieburth wrote about these and other buildings
whose history she had traced, in the Journal-Constitution Maga-
zine last December.)

Can the dark rooms behind ornate old Victorian-style posts
be turned into new restaurants, with some old-style furnish-
ings? Can there be restoration of painted glass now removed,
and refurbishing of cast-iron fronts? Will Paul Hentschel’s Sa-
loon swing again?

That is what is on the minds of some of those now con-
templating this germ of an idea. They think there may be a
chance to convert several underground blocks into a popular
center of restaurants, galleries, night spots and shops, all in '
the style of the old Atlanta.

a a

THERE IS ROOM for an impressive entranceway at one
point on the present Alabama Street, where stairs and planted
landings might lead the visitors into the old city. Could there
be a horse-and-buggy shuttle service waiting below, to take
people on the original cobblestone streets, under gas lights, to
their destinations?

A committee of the Civic Design Commission wants to
find out. Paul Muldawer, an architect who is a member of the
committee, believes all this may be feasible—if there is public
response to the idea. He hopes to hear.

“Every city needs something people will point to as truly
unique,” he said, “and for Atlanta this could he it.”

 
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