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MINUTES
HOUSING RESOURCES EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND
LOW-INCOME HOUSING COORDINATING GROUP MEETING
July S, 1968
The regular monthly meeting of the Housing Resources Hxecutiyc
Committee and the Low-income Housing Coordinating Group was held
in Committee Room 2, City Hall, July 9, 1968, at 10:00 a.m.
Nine (3) members of the Housing Resources Executive Committee
Group, ten (10) members of the Low-income Housing Coordinating
Group, four (4) other invited guests and members of the Press attend-
ed the meeting. List of those invited, with attendance indicated,
is attached to the file copy of these minutes. Also attached
to the file copy of these minutes are copies of the invitational
notices sent out for the meeting, agenda, and reference documents.
Chairman Cecil A, Alexander presided.
Mr. Alexander opened the meeting by stating that the Ad Hoc
Committee is still working with the Planning Department on specific
Sites for low-income housing. The Ad Hoc Committee and the Planning
Department have already had two'meetings since the Committee was
appointed.
Mr. Alexander announced the August 2 meeting with the Zoning
Committee and Planning and Development Committee of the Board of
Aldermen to present the "package zoning" proposal and emphasized
the importance of the meeting.
Mr. Moreland Smith stated that more time is needed to work
on the location of specific sites. He asked for suggestions from
the Committee about the location of specific sites. He said
that there was property that needed to be discussed for specific
Sites.
Mr. Alexander added Jim E. Land to the Ad Hoc Sites Selection
Committee. He also stated that more land is needed for the multi-
family housing program. He said thet the Housing Authority could
build multi-family housing itself and obtain the land,
Mr. Alexander had previously asked Mr. George Kennedy to
Serve aS Acting Chairman of the Ad Hoc Committee to support
Package Zoning. He also asked Mr. Kennedy if he had a meeting
of the committee Co-Chairmen? He alm asked if Mr. Kennedy had
gotten a run down on the different organizations for their
resolutions on support of the "package zoning" and mentioned that
follow up with the organizations which have not submitted their
Resolutions is an important function of the Ad Hoc Committee.
2
Mr. Alexander referred tc an item in "House and Urban Affairs
Daily" (June 28, 1968) which announced that the House Banking and
Currency Committee has followed the recommendations of its
Housing subcommittee, headed by Congressman Wright Patman of Texas
as Chairman, approving an increase from $1,500 to $3,000 maximum
grant for low-income home owners, compared to the increase to
$2,590 as proposed by the Administration and approved by the
senate. The Committee also ckayed two related amendments which
would provide rehabilitation loans and grants to home owners
in areas of substantial blight outside Urban Renewal and Code
Enforcement areas and would authorize rehabilitation assistance
under proposed riot insurance legislation. Wr. Alexander
Suggested that the Housing Resources Committee should follow up.
i motion was made by Mr, Watkins, seconded, and unamiously
adopted that the Committee should send messages to Congressman
Wright Patman and Fletcher Thompson urging their support of the
above indicated portions of the House Banking and Currency
Committee Report on the Housing Act of 1968. Mr. Persells suggest-
ed that the motion include recommendation that the Act net only
be approved but also funded. The Committee agreed,
Mr. Alexander proposed that in the meeting of August 2, the
HRC should also ask to have the Building Code amended to permit
the use of new materials and techniques; that Mr. Wofford is in
favor of performance Standards. Mr. Alexander stated that in New
York the Building Code has recently been amended. Mr. Moreland
Smith agreed that the Committee should stress the point of the
Building Code at the meeting of August 2. Mr. Dale Clark said
that any amendments to the Building Code should make it more
flexible rather than increase it,
Mr. Jones read an extract from the House and Urban Affairs
Daily of June 27, 1965, on Computerized Low-Cost Housing ?lan
sponsored by United States Gypsum Co. and John Hancock Mutual
Life Insurance Co. These two companies are planning to build up
to about 30 projects a year to provide an annual volume of some
10,000 units of housing which would be available mainly for low-
income home ownership. They are putting up both work capital and
risk capital for the undertaking by the Allied Mortgage and
Development Co., of Memphis, Tenn., a publicly held corporation,
Pakt of the process will involve use of a Swedish made drafting
machine which works off a computer and draws up the plans from
basic designs which are competed by selected specifications. The
price range of this type housing is generally from $12,500 to
$17,500. Within two months, work will begin in East St. Louis
and in Knoxville. With this type of housing actual construction
will involve a large degree of on-site prefabrication which will
be done by contractors of the ghetto areas, utilizing unemployed
residents who will be trained as they work.
Mr. Alexander commented on the tour with CACUR in the slum
areas. He said that they rode buses and then walked on through
the areas. He stated that he still wanted Mr. Jones and ir. Parham
to plan their trip to the different slum areas,
3
Mr. Alexander stated that the Zoning Manual, as it relates
to the Building Code, needs to be changed to permit structural
changes in residential buildings classified as non-conforming
use, in order that such dwellings may be improved to meet full
reduirements of the Housing Code. At present, improvements
requiring structural changes are not permitted on residential
buildings which are non-conforming. Mr. Alexander said th
Committee should try to get the Board of Aldermen to change tx.
Mr. Archer Smith was asked by the Chairman to talk to
Collier Gladin to find out what the Flanning Department has
already done toward accomplishing this.
Mr. Johnny Johnson, Director of Model Cities, gave a report
on Model Cities. He reported that the new Model Cities office
broke ground today on the corner of Georgia Avenue and Capital
Avenue, The Warren Company is building the new Model Cities
office,
Mr. Cary 5. Hooks commented on comparicon of carrying
charges for co-op houses and rental housing under the 221 d (3°
program. Mr. Hooks stated that the maximum term mortgage for
Co-op and rental housing is 40 years and that below mar’:st ratc
loans are available for both types. (Carrying Charge rates ar
the same for both types.)
Mr. Archer Smith of the Legal Panel has talked to the Schev
Department re leasing school facilities which might be constrv-
by developers while constructing housing. Mr. Smith reporte~
the School Board recently passed Resolutions favoring such acti-
and requested iir, Pete Lattimer to draw up the necessary
legislation. The Chairman. made a comment on the New York
Schools, stating that the schools were being built undergrourd
beneath tall business and apartment buildings.
om
Mr. William Howland stated that five houses to be rehabi’-
by CACUR under the 221 (h) program are behind Oglethorpe
University in DeKalb County.
Mr. Alexander referred to the need for a clerical person i.
help out on keeping and preparing the Low-income Housing
inventory and Summary Reports. Mr. Alexander suggested <«
Committee to consider setting up a budget for the HRC.
Mr. Jones commented on a site in Cobb County recently
proposed for ic. income housing. Mr. Jones stated that the site
in Cobb County is 4 mile south of Bankhead Highway, about 1 mile
west of the River; that it is on a paved road, lays well and h--
water; sewer will soon be available and the price of land is
reasonable, The owners propose that this land t~ used for
Turnkey program; 152 units on 17 acres, The land is already
zoned for apartments,
Mr. Persells stated that the City of Atlanta's low-income
housing program calls for 16,800 housing units and that it is
contended by some that more people are coming in from rural
areas, rather than the people already in Atlanta using the
housing and that thus, we are not taking care of our own people
in the slum areas; that priority should go to the people of
Atlanta first. Mr. Persells stated that the number of people
whe come to Atlanta for low-income housing is very low; that
of those applications rejected since November 1967, 141 did
not meet the residential requirements; that the time of
application applies to priority for public housing; that it is
on a first come first served basis (other considerations per-
mitting),.
Mr. Jones commented that although the percentage of
rejections may be low for those who do not meet residential
requirements, however, that 141 rejections since November 1967,
that did not meet residential requirements, is significant
and should be made known to the Aldermen,
Mr. Jim Parhm said that the Committee should start buildirg
up the area outside the City Limits in the big Metropolitan Area
to meet this problem of people coming from the rural areas who
need to live in low-income housing.
As there was no further business, the meeting adjourned
at. 11:05 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Fh; (eheatinsoty henna
Malcolm D, Jondy
Housing Coordinator
Encls: As stated (with file copy only)
HOUSING RESOURCES EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND
LOW-INCOME HOUSING COORDINATING GROUP MEETING
July S, 1968
The regular monthly meeting of the Housing Resources Hxecutiyc
Committee and the Low-income Housing Coordinating Group was held
in Committee Room 2, City Hall, July 9, 1968, at 10:00 a.m.
Nine (3) members of the Housing Resources Executive Committee
Group, ten (10) members of the Low-income Housing Coordinating
Group, four (4) other invited guests and members of the Press attend-
ed the meeting. List of those invited, with attendance indicated,
is attached to the file copy of these minutes. Also attached
to the file copy of these minutes are copies of the invitational
notices sent out for the meeting, agenda, and reference documents.
Chairman Cecil A, Alexander presided.
Mr. Alexander opened the meeting by stating that the Ad Hoc
Committee is still working with the Planning Department on specific
Sites for low-income housing. The Ad Hoc Committee and the Planning
Department have already had two'meetings since the Committee was
appointed.
Mr. Alexander announced the August 2 meeting with the Zoning
Committee and Planning and Development Committee of the Board of
Aldermen to present the "package zoning" proposal and emphasized
the importance of the meeting.
Mr. Moreland Smith stated that more time is needed to work
on the location of specific sites. He asked for suggestions from
the Committee about the location of specific sites. He said
that there was property that needed to be discussed for specific
Sites.
Mr. Alexander added Jim E. Land to the Ad Hoc Sites Selection
Committee. He also stated that more land is needed for the multi-
family housing program. He said thet the Housing Authority could
build multi-family housing itself and obtain the land,
Mr. Alexander had previously asked Mr. George Kennedy to
Serve aS Acting Chairman of the Ad Hoc Committee to support
Package Zoning. He also asked Mr. Kennedy if he had a meeting
of the committee Co-Chairmen? He alm asked if Mr. Kennedy had
gotten a run down on the different organizations for their
resolutions on support of the "package zoning" and mentioned that
follow up with the organizations which have not submitted their
Resolutions is an important function of the Ad Hoc Committee.
2
Mr. Alexander referred tc an item in "House and Urban Affairs
Daily" (June 28, 1968) which announced that the House Banking and
Currency Committee has followed the recommendations of its
Housing subcommittee, headed by Congressman Wright Patman of Texas
as Chairman, approving an increase from $1,500 to $3,000 maximum
grant for low-income home owners, compared to the increase to
$2,590 as proposed by the Administration and approved by the
senate. The Committee also ckayed two related amendments which
would provide rehabilitation loans and grants to home owners
in areas of substantial blight outside Urban Renewal and Code
Enforcement areas and would authorize rehabilitation assistance
under proposed riot insurance legislation. Wr. Alexander
Suggested that the Housing Resources Committee should follow up.
i motion was made by Mr, Watkins, seconded, and unamiously
adopted that the Committee should send messages to Congressman
Wright Patman and Fletcher Thompson urging their support of the
above indicated portions of the House Banking and Currency
Committee Report on the Housing Act of 1968. Mr. Persells suggest-
ed that the motion include recommendation that the Act net only
be approved but also funded. The Committee agreed,
Mr. Alexander proposed that in the meeting of August 2, the
HRC should also ask to have the Building Code amended to permit
the use of new materials and techniques; that Mr. Wofford is in
favor of performance Standards. Mr. Alexander stated that in New
York the Building Code has recently been amended. Mr. Moreland
Smith agreed that the Committee should stress the point of the
Building Code at the meeting of August 2. Mr. Dale Clark said
that any amendments to the Building Code should make it more
flexible rather than increase it,
Mr. Jones read an extract from the House and Urban Affairs
Daily of June 27, 1965, on Computerized Low-Cost Housing ?lan
sponsored by United States Gypsum Co. and John Hancock Mutual
Life Insurance Co. These two companies are planning to build up
to about 30 projects a year to provide an annual volume of some
10,000 units of housing which would be available mainly for low-
income home ownership. They are putting up both work capital and
risk capital for the undertaking by the Allied Mortgage and
Development Co., of Memphis, Tenn., a publicly held corporation,
Pakt of the process will involve use of a Swedish made drafting
machine which works off a computer and draws up the plans from
basic designs which are competed by selected specifications. The
price range of this type housing is generally from $12,500 to
$17,500. Within two months, work will begin in East St. Louis
and in Knoxville. With this type of housing actual construction
will involve a large degree of on-site prefabrication which will
be done by contractors of the ghetto areas, utilizing unemployed
residents who will be trained as they work.
Mr. Alexander commented on the tour with CACUR in the slum
areas. He said that they rode buses and then walked on through
the areas. He stated that he still wanted Mr. Jones and ir. Parham
to plan their trip to the different slum areas,
3
Mr. Alexander stated that the Zoning Manual, as it relates
to the Building Code, needs to be changed to permit structural
changes in residential buildings classified as non-conforming
use, in order that such dwellings may be improved to meet full
reduirements of the Housing Code. At present, improvements
requiring structural changes are not permitted on residential
buildings which are non-conforming. Mr. Alexander said th
Committee should try to get the Board of Aldermen to change tx.
Mr. Archer Smith was asked by the Chairman to talk to
Collier Gladin to find out what the Flanning Department has
already done toward accomplishing this.
Mr. Johnny Johnson, Director of Model Cities, gave a report
on Model Cities. He reported that the new Model Cities office
broke ground today on the corner of Georgia Avenue and Capital
Avenue, The Warren Company is building the new Model Cities
office,
Mr. Cary 5. Hooks commented on comparicon of carrying
charges for co-op houses and rental housing under the 221 d (3°
program. Mr. Hooks stated that the maximum term mortgage for
Co-op and rental housing is 40 years and that below mar’:st ratc
loans are available for both types. (Carrying Charge rates ar
the same for both types.)
Mr. Archer Smith of the Legal Panel has talked to the Schev
Department re leasing school facilities which might be constrv-
by developers while constructing housing. Mr. Smith reporte~
the School Board recently passed Resolutions favoring such acti-
and requested iir, Pete Lattimer to draw up the necessary
legislation. The Chairman. made a comment on the New York
Schools, stating that the schools were being built undergrourd
beneath tall business and apartment buildings.
om
Mr. William Howland stated that five houses to be rehabi’-
by CACUR under the 221 (h) program are behind Oglethorpe
University in DeKalb County.
Mr. Alexander referred to the need for a clerical person i.
help out on keeping and preparing the Low-income Housing
inventory and Summary Reports. Mr. Alexander suggested <«
Committee to consider setting up a budget for the HRC.
Mr. Jones commented on a site in Cobb County recently
proposed for ic. income housing. Mr. Jones stated that the site
in Cobb County is 4 mile south of Bankhead Highway, about 1 mile
west of the River; that it is on a paved road, lays well and h--
water; sewer will soon be available and the price of land is
reasonable, The owners propose that this land t~ used for
Turnkey program; 152 units on 17 acres, The land is already
zoned for apartments,
Mr. Persells stated that the City of Atlanta's low-income
housing program calls for 16,800 housing units and that it is
contended by some that more people are coming in from rural
areas, rather than the people already in Atlanta using the
housing and that thus, we are not taking care of our own people
in the slum areas; that priority should go to the people of
Atlanta first. Mr. Persells stated that the number of people
whe come to Atlanta for low-income housing is very low; that
of those applications rejected since November 1967, 141 did
not meet the residential requirements; that the time of
application applies to priority for public housing; that it is
on a first come first served basis (other considerations per-
mitting),.
Mr. Jones commented that although the percentage of
rejections may be low for those who do not meet residential
requirements, however, that 141 rejections since November 1967,
that did not meet residential requirements, is significant
and should be made known to the Aldermen,
Mr. Jim Parhm said that the Committee should start buildirg
up the area outside the City Limits in the big Metropolitan Area
to meet this problem of people coming from the rural areas who
need to live in low-income housing.
As there was no further business, the meeting adjourned
at. 11:05 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Fh; (eheatinsoty henna
Malcolm D, Jondy
Housing Coordinator
Encls: As stated (with file copy only)
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