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MINUTES OF THE SIXTEENTH MEETING OF THE
METROPOLITAN ATLANTA RAPID TRANSIT AUTHORITY
JUNE 9, 1967
The Board of Directors of the Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid
Transit Authority held its regular meeting on June 9, 1967,
at 3:30 P.M. in the Conference Room of the Glenn Building,
Atlanta. Mr. Richard H. Rich, Chairman, presided.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Robert F. Adamson (City of Atlanta)
M. C. Bishop (Fulton County)
Edgar Blalock (Clayton County)
Roy A. Blount (DeKalb County)
Rawson Haverty (City of Atlanta)
K. A. McMillon (Gwinnett County)
L. D. Milton (City of Atlanta)
Richard H. Rich (City of Atlanta)
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Sanford Atwood (DeKalb County)
OTHERS PRESENT:
Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority
H. L. Stuart, General Manager
King Elliott, Public Information Director
Earl W. Nelson, Chief Engineer
H. N. Johnson, Secretary to General Manager
Consultants
Walter Douglas, Parsons, Brinckerhoff, Quade & Douglas,
New York
W. O. Salter, Parsons, Brinckerhoff-Tudor, Bechtel,
San Francisco
J. A. Coil, Resident Manager, Parsons, Brinckerhoff-Tudor,
Bechtel, Atlanta
Raymond O'Neil, Parsons, Brinckerhoff-Tudor, Bechtel,
Atlanta
Consultants (Cont'd.)
R. W. Gustafson, Parsons, Brinckerhoff-Tudor, Bechtel,
Atlanta
David McBrayer, Parsons, Brinckerhoff-Tudor, Bechtel,
Atlanta
Bob Barksdale, Parsons, Brinckerhoff-Tudor, Bechtel,
Atlanta
M. D. Den Hartog, Lord & Den Hartog/Parsons, Brinckerhoff-
Tudor, Bechtel, New York
Philip Hammer, Hammer, Greene, Siler Associates, Washington
Lawrence Greene, Hammer, Greene, Siler Associates, Atlanta
Leon Eplan, Eric Hill Associates, Atlanta
W. Stell Huie, Huie & Harland, Atlanta
Others
Lorraine Bennett, Atlanta Journal
Dick Hebert, Atlanta Constitution
Joseph E. Lay, Robinson-Humphrey
Jere A. Burruss, State Highway Department of Georgia
Joel F. Stone, Jr., State Highway Department of Georgia
Robert W. Roseveare, Traffic Engineer, DeKalb County
Donald G. Ingram, Associate Director, Central Atlanta
Progress, Inc.
Andy Springer, Atlanta Traffic & Safety Council
J. D. Wingfield, Jr., Jerry A. Coursey, A. Y. Brown,
Gayle Harder, Mrs. Rachel Champagne, Miss Claudette
Parrish, Atlanta Region Metropolitan Planning
Commission
The meeting was called to order by the Chairman.
Minutes
The minutes of the meeting of May 2nd had been mailed to members
prior to the meeting. Mr. Bishop made a motion, seconded by
Mr. Haverty, that the reading of the minutes be dispensed with
and that they be unanimously approved.
Mr. Huie called attention to the fact that minutes of March 2,
1966, June 28, 1966, January 3, 1967, and April 4, 1967, meet-
ings had been approved at meetings which did not have a quorum
present, and suggested that the Board ratify approval of those
documents. Mr. Bishop made a motion that approval of these
minutes be ratified, Mr. McMillon seconded the motion, and it
was unanimously passed.
Financial Report
The General Manager presented the financial report as of May 31,
1967, which is attached hereto and made a part of these minutes.
Mr. Stuart commented that Gwinnett County was the only govern-
ment in arrears on its commitments to the Authority. Income
from interest had been slightly less than anticipated because
less money had been invested, due to consultant payments having
been made. There were no questions, and the financial report
was accepted.
Progress Reports
General Manager
A meeting was held at 2:00 o'clock immediately prior to the
regular Board meeting, for the purpose of hearing progress re-
ports from the consultants. Engineers from Parsons, Brincker-
hoff-Tudor, Bechtel, Mr. Philip Hammer of Hammer, Greene, Siler
Associates, and Mr. Leon Eplan of Eric Hill Associates gave
detailed reports on rapid transit consultant contracts in force.
This was well attended by some 50 individuals, including local
consultants, planners, architects, etc. Mr. Stuart said this
would be a regular meeting each month, and it was hoped it would
serve as a tool for information and coordination of efforts
among the various governments and agencies concerned.
Mr. Stuart said Cousins Properties, Inc., in development of the
air rights in the gulch, had allowed 50-foot corridors between
columns as well as a "Y" track, to accommodate requirements of
the transit system. Liaison continued with Mr. Portman in the
development of Peachtree Center. Mr. Stuart had met with air-
port developers and with principals in the Nasher project, and
reported cooperation from both groups.
The General Manager had made nine public addresses during the
month.
Mr. Stuart reported on a conference in Washington, D. C., on
May 22nd. The meeting was called by HUD, and was on design of
urban transportation. An exhibit had been prepared by MARTA
with the help of the engineers, and Mr. Stuart showed slides of
the exhibit, and taped excerpts of addresses by Mr. Charles
Haar and others were presented.
A brief report of the recent national meeting of the Institute
for Rapid Transit held in Atlanta was made by the General
Manager.
Mr. Stuart said Aldermen Cook and Griggs, Representative
Winkles, and others had recently toured the proposed transit
lines.
The General Manager announced that the Advisory Committee, dis-
cussed at the May meeting, had been formed, and was composed of
the following professionals from the principal design disciplines
in Atlanta:
Chairman - Professor Howard K. Menhinick
Richard L. Aeck, representing American Institute
of Architects
Richard M. Forbes, representing American
Institute of Planners
H. Boyer Marx, representing American Society
of Landscape Architects
Roy J. Boston, representing American Society of
Professional Engineers
The purpose of this committee would be twofold: (1) to provide
professional review of design work and (2) to discuss proper re-
lationships between the several consultants. Mr. Stuart asked
for approval of an amendment to the 1967 budget, adding an ex-
penditure item of $5,000 for fees to this committee. Mr. Haverty
made a motion that this amendment to the budget be approved, Mr.
Bishop seconded the motion, and it was unanimously passed.
Mr. Stuart and Mr. Huie had visited the State Department of
Industry and Trade. Mr. Huie felt contractual arrangements
could probably be made with the State for funds on a quarterly
basis during the first two years. The State had appropriated
$250,000 for the next two years, limited by the Constitutional
provision restricting the State's contribution to ten percent of
the cost of any one project.
Consultants
Parsons, Brinckerhoff-Tudor, Bechtel
Mr. John Coil gave examples of photogrammetry and aerial photog-
raphy and the methods used to show projected plans and profiles
of the system. The engineers had examined the gulch area further
to determine the best rights-of-way for the transit system. In-
formation was being transmitted to the State Properties Control
Commission. Preliminary work had begun on a contract for taking
soil samples in the central and east-west lines. Mr. Coil said
one company in the joint venture would do preliminary design of
special structures in the system. Liaison work on coordinating
plans for the airport and transit system continued. Efforts to
coordinate the Highway Department's plans for the Brookwood
interchange had been made. Mr. Coil said the firm had reviewed
architectural definitives and had four which showed concepts
for a transit center.
The Chairman recognized the importance of coordinating plans for
the transit lines to the airport, but cautioned the engineers
against too detailed plans at this time in view of the realistic
time lag on this line.
Hammer, Greene, Siler Associates
Mr. Philip Hammer reported that final figures for financing the
system would be completed within a few days. He said there had
been some changes in annual requirements which would more advan-
tageously fit into a financial plan and the receipt of federal
funds. He mentioned a plan staging the development of the
system so that participation on the part of the outlying counties
would begin simultaneously with construction in those areas.
Other Business
The Board accepted the resignation of Mr. Robert W. Adamson as
Treasurer of MARTA. Mr. Adamson had been appointed as a member
to replace Mr. Mills B. Lane, Jr. At Mr. Adamson's suggestion,
the Board agreed to ask Mr. Herbert Dickson, Executive Vice
President of the C. & S. Bank, to serve as Treasurer of MARTA.
The Chairman reported that Fulton County Commission would soon
appoint a replacement for Mr. Pulver.
July Meeting
Because of the July 4th holiday, the next regular meeting was
scheduled for Friday, July 7th, at 3:30 P.M.
Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 4:45 P.M.
METROPOLITAN ATLANTA RAPID TRANSIT AUTHORITY
JUNE 9, 1967
The Board of Directors of the Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid
Transit Authority held its regular meeting on June 9, 1967,
at 3:30 P.M. in the Conference Room of the Glenn Building,
Atlanta. Mr. Richard H. Rich, Chairman, presided.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Robert F. Adamson (City of Atlanta)
M. C. Bishop (Fulton County)
Edgar Blalock (Clayton County)
Roy A. Blount (DeKalb County)
Rawson Haverty (City of Atlanta)
K. A. McMillon (Gwinnett County)
L. D. Milton (City of Atlanta)
Richard H. Rich (City of Atlanta)
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Sanford Atwood (DeKalb County)
OTHERS PRESENT:
Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority
H. L. Stuart, General Manager
King Elliott, Public Information Director
Earl W. Nelson, Chief Engineer
H. N. Johnson, Secretary to General Manager
Consultants
Walter Douglas, Parsons, Brinckerhoff, Quade & Douglas,
New York
W. O. Salter, Parsons, Brinckerhoff-Tudor, Bechtel,
San Francisco
J. A. Coil, Resident Manager, Parsons, Brinckerhoff-Tudor,
Bechtel, Atlanta
Raymond O'Neil, Parsons, Brinckerhoff-Tudor, Bechtel,
Atlanta
Consultants (Cont'd.)
R. W. Gustafson, Parsons, Brinckerhoff-Tudor, Bechtel,
Atlanta
David McBrayer, Parsons, Brinckerhoff-Tudor, Bechtel,
Atlanta
Bob Barksdale, Parsons, Brinckerhoff-Tudor, Bechtel,
Atlanta
M. D. Den Hartog, Lord & Den Hartog/Parsons, Brinckerhoff-
Tudor, Bechtel, New York
Philip Hammer, Hammer, Greene, Siler Associates, Washington
Lawrence Greene, Hammer, Greene, Siler Associates, Atlanta
Leon Eplan, Eric Hill Associates, Atlanta
W. Stell Huie, Huie & Harland, Atlanta
Others
Lorraine Bennett, Atlanta Journal
Dick Hebert, Atlanta Constitution
Joseph E. Lay, Robinson-Humphrey
Jere A. Burruss, State Highway Department of Georgia
Joel F. Stone, Jr., State Highway Department of Georgia
Robert W. Roseveare, Traffic Engineer, DeKalb County
Donald G. Ingram, Associate Director, Central Atlanta
Progress, Inc.
Andy Springer, Atlanta Traffic & Safety Council
J. D. Wingfield, Jr., Jerry A. Coursey, A. Y. Brown,
Gayle Harder, Mrs. Rachel Champagne, Miss Claudette
Parrish, Atlanta Region Metropolitan Planning
Commission
The meeting was called to order by the Chairman.
Minutes
The minutes of the meeting of May 2nd had been mailed to members
prior to the meeting. Mr. Bishop made a motion, seconded by
Mr. Haverty, that the reading of the minutes be dispensed with
and that they be unanimously approved.
Mr. Huie called attention to the fact that minutes of March 2,
1966, June 28, 1966, January 3, 1967, and April 4, 1967, meet-
ings had been approved at meetings which did not have a quorum
present, and suggested that the Board ratify approval of those
documents. Mr. Bishop made a motion that approval of these
minutes be ratified, Mr. McMillon seconded the motion, and it
was unanimously passed.
Financial Report
The General Manager presented the financial report as of May 31,
1967, which is attached hereto and made a part of these minutes.
Mr. Stuart commented that Gwinnett County was the only govern-
ment in arrears on its commitments to the Authority. Income
from interest had been slightly less than anticipated because
less money had been invested, due to consultant payments having
been made. There were no questions, and the financial report
was accepted.
Progress Reports
General Manager
A meeting was held at 2:00 o'clock immediately prior to the
regular Board meeting, for the purpose of hearing progress re-
ports from the consultants. Engineers from Parsons, Brincker-
hoff-Tudor, Bechtel, Mr. Philip Hammer of Hammer, Greene, Siler
Associates, and Mr. Leon Eplan of Eric Hill Associates gave
detailed reports on rapid transit consultant contracts in force.
This was well attended by some 50 individuals, including local
consultants, planners, architects, etc. Mr. Stuart said this
would be a regular meeting each month, and it was hoped it would
serve as a tool for information and coordination of efforts
among the various governments and agencies concerned.
Mr. Stuart said Cousins Properties, Inc., in development of the
air rights in the gulch, had allowed 50-foot corridors between
columns as well as a "Y" track, to accommodate requirements of
the transit system. Liaison continued with Mr. Portman in the
development of Peachtree Center. Mr. Stuart had met with air-
port developers and with principals in the Nasher project, and
reported cooperation from both groups.
The General Manager had made nine public addresses during the
month.
Mr. Stuart reported on a conference in Washington, D. C., on
May 22nd. The meeting was called by HUD, and was on design of
urban transportation. An exhibit had been prepared by MARTA
with the help of the engineers, and Mr. Stuart showed slides of
the exhibit, and taped excerpts of addresses by Mr. Charles
Haar and others were presented.
A brief report of the recent national meeting of the Institute
for Rapid Transit held in Atlanta was made by the General
Manager.
Mr. Stuart said Aldermen Cook and Griggs, Representative
Winkles, and others had recently toured the proposed transit
lines.
The General Manager announced that the Advisory Committee, dis-
cussed at the May meeting, had been formed, and was composed of
the following professionals from the principal design disciplines
in Atlanta:
Chairman - Professor Howard K. Menhinick
Richard L. Aeck, representing American Institute
of Architects
Richard M. Forbes, representing American
Institute of Planners
H. Boyer Marx, representing American Society
of Landscape Architects
Roy J. Boston, representing American Society of
Professional Engineers
The purpose of this committee would be twofold: (1) to provide
professional review of design work and (2) to discuss proper re-
lationships between the several consultants. Mr. Stuart asked
for approval of an amendment to the 1967 budget, adding an ex-
penditure item of $5,000 for fees to this committee. Mr. Haverty
made a motion that this amendment to the budget be approved, Mr.
Bishop seconded the motion, and it was unanimously passed.
Mr. Stuart and Mr. Huie had visited the State Department of
Industry and Trade. Mr. Huie felt contractual arrangements
could probably be made with the State for funds on a quarterly
basis during the first two years. The State had appropriated
$250,000 for the next two years, limited by the Constitutional
provision restricting the State's contribution to ten percent of
the cost of any one project.
Consultants
Parsons, Brinckerhoff-Tudor, Bechtel
Mr. John Coil gave examples of photogrammetry and aerial photog-
raphy and the methods used to show projected plans and profiles
of the system. The engineers had examined the gulch area further
to determine the best rights-of-way for the transit system. In-
formation was being transmitted to the State Properties Control
Commission. Preliminary work had begun on a contract for taking
soil samples in the central and east-west lines. Mr. Coil said
one company in the joint venture would do preliminary design of
special structures in the system. Liaison work on coordinating
plans for the airport and transit system continued. Efforts to
coordinate the Highway Department's plans for the Brookwood
interchange had been made. Mr. Coil said the firm had reviewed
architectural definitives and had four which showed concepts
for a transit center.
The Chairman recognized the importance of coordinating plans for
the transit lines to the airport, but cautioned the engineers
against too detailed plans at this time in view of the realistic
time lag on this line.
Hammer, Greene, Siler Associates
Mr. Philip Hammer reported that final figures for financing the
system would be completed within a few days. He said there had
been some changes in annual requirements which would more advan-
tageously fit into a financial plan and the receipt of federal
funds. He mentioned a plan staging the development of the
system so that participation on the part of the outlying counties
would begin simultaneously with construction in those areas.
Other Business
The Board accepted the resignation of Mr. Robert W. Adamson as
Treasurer of MARTA. Mr. Adamson had been appointed as a member
to replace Mr. Mills B. Lane, Jr. At Mr. Adamson's suggestion,
the Board agreed to ask Mr. Herbert Dickson, Executive Vice
President of the C. & S. Bank, to serve as Treasurer of MARTA.
The Chairman reported that Fulton County Commission would soon
appoint a replacement for Mr. Pulver.
July Meeting
Because of the July 4th holiday, the next regular meeting was
scheduled for Friday, July 7th, at 3:30 P.M.
Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 4:45 P.M.
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